Jotul F118 Ol' style (winter scene)

[Soup]

Hi,
This is a non- UL stove...... I will have the UL sides (three hole) inside... this old style F118


I need to hook the F118 up to 6" Class A pipe..... It is in a chase ceiling support is below
here is a picture of my ceiling adapter..... attached


This is an existing Class A chimmey....... designed with the above single wall ceiling support.....

Above pictures of the ceiling support...... 6" single wall.....

Well, my first aspirations...(if this is possible)....
IS:::: I kinda would like just a little double wall pipe to connect to the single wall ceiling adapter...
(note: above the ceiling adapter is metal fab Class A double wall and stainless through roof penetration)

for example: if I could drop down from the single wall ceiling support(towards the stove)
with a double wall tee(too provide for easy cleaning of the the 6" double wall that is above
and also provide/improve heat clearances restrictions coming out from the ceiling and surrounding wall...

oooooOR: Again.....(with respect to IS::::: section)

a double wall 45 attached at the ceiling support adapter to angle outward....
to provide additional heat clearance to surrounding wall

So is there an adapter that would fit over the single wall and perhaps attaches some how to the
ceiling adapter(like with additional screws) to allow you to maintain the use of double wall pipe
below the single wall ceiling adapter.........

How is that for my explanation.........???? Is it clear... what I am inquiring about......
Please don't hesitate to to ask me for any clarification of my inquiry....

thanks! Soup

 

[DAKSY]

If you start with DW Connector Pipe, you need to run that to the Class A.
You cannot intermix SW & DW...
DW will cover that Flue extension completely,
& you will have to attach it to the extension with 3 screws.
You will have to reduce it to 5" at the stove, IIRC.

 

[Soup]

If you start with DW Connector Pipe, you need to run that to the Class A.
You cannot intermix SW & DW...
DW will cover that Flue extension completely,
& you will have to attach it to the extension with 3 screws.
You will have to reduce it to 5" at the stove, IIRC.

Sorta like doing plumbing.......... (respective of understanding the concepts and principles...)

IE::: you wouldn't run a 3" drain into a 2" drain.....

is similar to you would run double wall pipe into single wall....... ( this is your inference ,,, correct?)

Completely understandable........

So can you explain.... ( in nomenclature).........

Could you show me/explain with greater detail......

You are saying the flue extension on the ceiling support can be covered by a piece of Double wall...
the double wall will use three screw up into the ceiling support to hold it in......

the double wall twist together....

so is it like a double wall female coupling that I am putting over the ceiling support's flue extension?


What would the name of this part be?(this double wall adapter that I am screwing up into the ceiling support
flue extension[being held in with three screws]


AND::::::::::

thanks for mentioning........................

You will have to reduce it to 5" at the stove, IIRC.


can we talk about this.........

I am thinking I would like to run 5" single wall up to the 6" double wall...
rather than using a 5"x6" adapter and running 6" single wall to the 6" double wall...
(reasons/ benefits ::: if any explain???) (less than 10 foot run of pipe...definetly...)
[ Interested in 5" just cause it is a possibility and it is smaller.....
in taking up the available space........]

What kind of stove pipe adapter (is used) adapts to the jotul's pipe exhaust outlet?
[being that the 5" outlet is cast iron and has a single 1/4" hole in it]
(is there a special fitting that makes a secure connection
in both sealing and holding it in place )

I don't know what IIRC is referring to


Thnks, Soup

 

[DAKSY]

No twist locking, everything is secured with screws.
IIRC = If I Recall Correctly

Look this over. It is only one brand of DW connector pipe, but you will see how it assembles.

(broken link removed to https://icc-chimney.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/UB-II-A_2017-06.pdf)

 

[Soup]

yes, it looks nice....

no one else is m@king th@t kind of double w@ll stove pipe?

@ny ide@ how th@t would connect @t the stove? five inch @t the stove

i found this.....

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is there other

 

[Soup]

Yeah, Thanks for the link to double wall stove pipe...

I got to look at several manufacturers.... I completely understand the concept...

yeah, The issue(at the moment) is going from 125mm to six inches....

I have seen some of the adapters.(link above Wpartsplus..)
I don't think this is the only way to do this connection....
I have seen some six inch single wall(female) to six inch double wall stove (male) adapters.
Which I would like to employ....... and then go to single wall to stove
Scenario
I am thinking that I would drop down out of the ceiling with double wall stove pipe
to a double wall tee(in the drop have a double wall damper)
...... Come out of the Bull of the tee at the correct height to the stove...
use a double wall 6" to single wall 6" adapter..... (
then from the single wall 6" go to the 125mm connection.....
SEE ATTACHED PICs......

 

[begreen]

These stoves came with at 5" to 6" adapter. Maybe you can find one on eBay?

 

[Soup]

I will take a look thanks!

How do they attach?

You kno.. the original ones... from Jotul.... (there is just a single 1/4" hole)????

 

[begreen]

That's the way they came. Ours has 3 screws in it, 180º apart.

 

[Soup]

BUT, like one hole???? how does it attach with just one hole?????

I understand... yeah, it is old... NON-Ul.... but, how can you attach something with on fixed
attaching location.....
If I improve this connection..... yes, more than likely I will do that...
but, how was this originally intended to be connected...... that is what I would like to know...
Both... on a historical purpose(knowing that) and just.....(what they thought was sufficeint back then)

Thanks, Soup

 

[begreen]

Yes, originally attached with one bolt.