Liner direction

Dano25 Posted By Dano25, Jan 13, 2018 at 8:10 AM

  1. Dano25

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    There are no arrows which side goes down first

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    This is flex king pro 6”


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    I wouldn't worry about it. Install it however you want. It'll be fine.
     
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    That is absolutly wrong. There is an up and a down and if you do it wrong anything running down the pipe will end up inside the joint
     
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    I beleive the flex king pro is the 2 ply crap right it is corregated outside? If so you can easily tell which side of that inner liner is unsupported by sliding a knife under the edge. That unsupported side goes down. But i will say it again i would not put that type of liner in if i were you
     
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    I installed probably 50 - 75 liners during my time in the field & the was no "up or down"... It was one continuous 6" diameter...One end went into the stove adapter or the tee. The other end went into the flange on the top plate. Both were secured by three or four zip screws...Didn't make a difference.
     
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    How many of them were 2 ply smooth wall liners??? How many were heavy wall or mid weight?? They both absolutly are directional and doing it wrong can cause big problems. Also more companies are starting to label their crimped seem liners with a top and bottom because there is a potential for stuff tobget into and possibly through the joint. The only liners that are truly non directional are ventinox with their welded seam.
     
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    I install 50 to 75 a year and many of them are directional. The only ones that arent are ventinox ones we use for oil or gas.
     
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    Easy boys. Good news is she’s down and in the right way

    The one man show.
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    Gosh what luck I had.

    There was an off set terra-cotta joint about an arms length down from the top which kept catching the liner.

    I️ was able to bust it out with a wrench. And she twisted down nicely after that.


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    Love the ingenuity using the garden hose!

    It was nice that the liner didnt need to be insulated. Unusual that the masonry had the code required 2" gap between the masonry and the flammable wood framing on an internal chimney, but, as you took pictures of it going in without insulation, clearly you checked this first.

    Insurance companies sure like it when they can save money denying claims from customers who ignore the code and leave them easy evidence online! Good thing you had the clearances.
     
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    I’m doing pourable insulation for extra protection ;)!

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    You don't want that black appliance connector behind your insert. It'll corrode and develop holes before you even know it, and you won't know, because it's hidden. A stainless version is about $50. This is definitely something you want to swap out.
     
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    I wish my professional install was right side down. What size are your tiles?
     
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    You also should not be securing light wall liners with screws to the appliance adapter.
     
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    Good for you, you got it in! And it ain't easy either I know. Reminds me of last year - :)

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    Pourable is not necessarily extra protection and often is done incorrectly without spacer to keep the liner from touching the chimney in places. Lose that black metal elbow and replace with stainless steel.
     
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    Stainless steel elbow or t?


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    I'm sure glade I'm spending many days reading and learning on this forum before even starting my install, if I had not I would be repeating all these mistakes.
     
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    Okay did you see that piece on the back of the stove? Any idea what that is? I️ checked the manual but it didn’t describe anything on the back.


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    No idea. Hopefully someone else will be more familiar with the stove. Understand your concern.
     
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    Can you provide a picture of the front of the stove and the model, that might make it easier to answer that question.
     
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    Vermont casting dutchwest


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    Answered in the other thread. I think this is a somewhat rare Monessen Windsor Dutchmaster. Not certain, but it looks like they may have had a contract with SBI. This stove has a lot of similarity to some Centurys. Need a close, clear shot of the label.
     
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