Hey guys, I'm new here. I'm just looking into my first stove for my 2400 sq ft 2 story home. I have fond memories of deer hunting on a ranch way out in west river South Dakota and coming back in to the rancher's house after a cold evening to a roaring fire in his stove, which leads me to my present endeavour of a stove in my basement. I've decided I want a catalytic stove and have looked into the Blaze King Sirocco as well as the Quadra fire as I want the long burn times without constant tending. There are no stove installers within 200 miles of my home as wood burning is not popular in east river South Dakota since there's not many trees. Thus I'm looking to install myself, I have a mechanical and engineering background so I enjoy doing a lot of projects myself. I'm looking for input on chimney and flue installation toto pass through a wall. I find a lot of conflicting information from what I've found online (some say I need to build a brick inlay in the hole in the wall, others do not). I know I need 3X the flue diameter hole to pass through the wall, but am interested in other input and supplies needed. Also any input or experience with cat stoves especially with thermostat is would be welcome. Any and all help is appreciated and I'm sure I'll have tons more questions.
Looking for my first stove
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Ashful
Minister of Fire
Great choice of stove. I have a pair of the same stove in a different skirt, and I love them.
On chimney and install, paging @bholler and @webby3650. These two guys do this for a living (sweep and installer, respectively), they'll set you straight.
No brick is necessary. You need to look into a Class A chimney system. In your case you are wanting a Tee system. It will have a thimble for passing through the wall that’s specific to the pipe you choose. So don’t go cutting holes till you chosen a brand.
It would be best if you can go straight up through the roof with flue, is there an obstacle preventing this?
What he said.
Masonry is allot more work and simply doesnt perform as well unless you put an insulated liner in it. Which at that point material costs will be similar
Masonry is allot more work and simply doesnt perform as well unless you put an insulated liner in it. Which at that point material costs will be similar
That is not a rule for connector either. Actuall not a rule for anything. For a masonry wall passthrough you need 12" of solid masonry all around the crock
For starters I would suggest going to the major chimney pipe mfg's websites and download their installation guide. That will help you visualize the installation and components needed. DuraVent has a decent guide for installing DuraTech chimney pipe. Then see which option(s) best fit your house. If you can post some picture of the exterior of the house where possible chimney location(s) might be and most desired stove placement location(s) inside that will help people suggesting options. Extra points if you can include a sketch of the first floor plan showing possible stove locations.
Where does it state that? Because it isnt in any code book i have ever seen. And the one i use is used by almost all states. I can tell you for sure it is not code in pa where you are located. I didnt check but i would bet it is the same in sd
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The stove will be in the basement of my split level home and due to the upstairs layout it would have to exit through the basement all. Any suggestions on reputable chimney manufacturers to look into?
I will snap some pictures tonight, here is a picture of the basement floor plan with possible locations. The preferred spot for ease of installation with existing furniture and without moving existing wiring for outlets and cable is in the corner of the living room circled in yellow. 2 other options are in Orange, but would require moving wiring for the tv, and I believe the sectional couch may be too close for the other (unfortunate as it's my most desired location as it would position the chimney on the back side of the house opposed to on the front)
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That looks like a logical location. Is the proposed location for pipe going through the wall below or above grade? At that location will the chimney pipe that goes through the wall be going through a cement or wood studded wall?
Simple web search:
http://nasdonline.org/1248/d001052/wood-stove-installation-and-operation.html
(broken link removed to https://www.maine.gov/dacf/mfs/projects/mesweat/downloads/woodstove_installation.pdf)
http://www.concordgroupinsurance.com/images/stories/namic woodstove install.pdf
Youll have to read them. I could go on but whats the point.
http://nasdonline.org/1248/d001052/wood-stove-installation-and-operation.html
(broken link removed to https://www.maine.gov/dacf/mfs/projects/mesweat/downloads/woodstove_installation.pdf)
http://www.concordgroupinsurance.com/images/stories/namic woodstove install.pdf
Youll have to read them. I could go on but whats the point.
Yes because code also says clearances can be over ridden by the manufacturer of a ul listed product. Code does not say anything about 3x
Ashful
Minister of Fire
No debate to be had code is clear 18" unless sepecified otherwise by manufacturer.In case anyone ever wondered what chimney installers debate, when they get bored...
It will be above grade by 2 feet or so, through a wood studded wall with sheetrock inside, spray foam insulation and vinyl siding outside.
Very good. It will need a wall thimble kit by the mfg. to pass the chimney pipe through the wall safely. The installation will look something like this
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The whole install will look like something like this:
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