Low-Clearance Single Wall Stovepipe Thermometer

[indymoose]

I am having a Morso 7110 installed inside an existing masonry fireplace. Due to the height of the fireplace, only the bottom 6 inches of the stovepipe will be visible.

Are there stovepipe therms rated for placement that close to the stovetop? A stovetop therm would be more difficult to read, although I will probably purchase one in addition to a stovepipe unit since a lot of people seem to have both.

I really don’t want to buy yet another electronic gadget (i.e. a digital therm).

Thanks in advance!

 

[Wisco Shepherd]

One option that might work well would be an electronic Auber probe thermometer. You could sneak the probe up to the appropriate height and then get the readout digitally.

 

[Todd]

It may read a little high but it will still be a good guide to what’s going on.

 

[indymoose]

It may read a little high but it will still be a good guide to what’s going on.

Thanks. I'm surprised there aren't units with a probe/sensor extension. I may just have to bite the bullet and purchase an IR gun, though I wanted to avoid buying more electronic crap.

 

[Highbeam]

On a little cast iron 1 CF noncat like that I don't know if there's enough firebox to really overfire the flue.

 

[Highbeam]

Thanks. I'm surprised there aren't units with a probe/sensor extension. I may just have to bite the bullet and purchase an IR gun, though I wanted to avoid buying more electronic crap.

There was a time when you could buy mechanical water temperature gauges for your car. It used a bulb on one end of a tube that would be set in the hot water and then the expanding liquid would push the needle up on the gauge which was at the other end of the tube. All mechanical.

 

[begreen]

On a little cast iron 1 CF noncat like that I don't know if there's enough firebox to really overfire the flue.

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Can be done, and fairly easily if one spaces out closing down the air.

 

[Trevor Tahclep]

'' Are there stovepipe therms rated for placement that close to the stovetop? ''

TempSure magnetic sensor thermometer can be placed just about anywhere including stove top and anywhere on steel stove pipe !
Temp can be read on your phone with their app.

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[indymoose]

On a little cast iron 1 CF noncat like that I don't know if there's enough firebox to really overfire the flue.

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That's good to know. This will be my first wood stove, so I was concerned about this. I grew up in a home with an old insert, but I was not allowed to operate it and it was only used when the power when out or the temperature really dropped. But I do want a thermometer in order to operate the stove efficiently.

 

[indymoose]

TempSure magnetic sensor can be placed just about anywhere including any steel stove pipe ! Temp can be read on your phone with their app.

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TempSure Wifi Monitor The TempSure Wifi Monitor displays stove temperature, as well as connecting to your home Wifi. Learn More Magnetic Sensor The TempSure Magnetic Sensor is placed on the stove surface. Connects to the Wifi Monitor. Learn More Free Smartphone App Our free smartphone app allows...

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This might be the answer. I wanted to avoid electronics, but if I am going to buy something I might as well go all-in and monitor the temperature remotely. And, to be frank, the Aubers just do not look great.

Do you have one of these? Are you satisfied with what you got for the price?

 

[Highbeam]

That's good to know. This will be my first wood stove, so I was concerned about this. I grew up in a home with an old insert, but I was not allowed to operate it and it was only used when the power when out or the temperature really dropped. But I do want a thermometer in order to operate the stove efficiently.

I don't know how you plan to use this but such a small firebox could be very frustrating to heat with. My current stove in my little 1700 SF home is just about three times as large.

 

[indymoose]

I don't know how you plan to use this but such a small firebox could be very frustrating to heat with. My current stove in my little 1700 SF home is just about three times as large.

Thanks, I've already discussed this with my installer. My house is only 980 square feet, and this is just about the largest unit I could install without completely replacing the mantle. I'm just looking to supplement heat and have something to keep us in the house if the power goes out (which happens frequently). The fireplace is well-situated in the house on an interior wall, and I will be installing a block-off plate to further increase efficiency.

 

[begreen]

'' Are there stovepipe therms rated for placement that close to the stovetop? ''

TempSure magnetic sensor thermometer can be placed just about anywhere including stove top and anywhere on steel stove pipe !
Temp can be read on your phone with their app.

Home -

TempSure Wifi Monitor The TempSure Wifi Monitor displays stove temperature, as well as connecting to your home Wifi. Learn More Magnetic Sensor The TempSure Magnetic Sensor is placed on the stove surface. Connects to the Wifi Monitor. Learn More Free Smartphone App Our free smartphone app allows...

tempsure.net

Where it's practical, I prefer a probe in the actual flue gases. It affords near real time feedback on the fire. This is especially helpful during the initial heating up of the wood load when flue temps rise sharply and rapidly if not curtailed by air control adjustment. Tracking stovepipe temps on double-wall is not effective.

I'll contact the company to ask if they are working on this feature. The Tempsure is more attractive and has some nice features. I'll also ask if it has an internal alarm or is the alarm only on the phone?

 

[indymoose]

Where it's practical, I prefer a probe in the actual flue gases. It affords near real time feedback on the fire. This is especially helpful during the initial heating up of the wood load when flue temps rise sharply and rapidly if not curtailed by air control adjustment. Tracking stovepipe temps on double-wall is not effective.

I'll contact the company to ask if they are working on this feature. The Tempsure is more attractive and has some nice features. I'll also ask if it has an internal alarm or is the alarm only on the phone?

Do you have a probe installed in a single-wall stovepipe?

Now I am wondering if I can hook a Type K magnetic probe cable to an analog thermometer and place the magnet higher up the stove pipe...has anyone seen this setup before?

 

[Highbeam]

I have a probe installed in a single wall stovepipe. Works great. It is the thermocouple for the auber meter which looks a little "lab like" but could be hidden away in the fireplace up high for you. The thermocouple wire is a thin braided stainless steel wire that is quite long.

I really like the utility of the thermocouple probe. Fast and accurate readings with an overtemp alarm.

In my house stove I have double wall pipe and a mechanical probe that is slower but also tremendously helpful.

 

[begreen]

I have a probe installed in a single wall stovepipe. Works great. It is the thermocouple for the auber meter which looks a little "lab like" but could be hidden away in the fireplace up high for you. The thermocouple wire is a thin braided stainless steel wire that is quite long.

I really like the utility of the thermocouple probe. Fast and accurate readings with an overtemp alarm.

In my house stove I have double wall pipe and a mechanical probe that is slower but also tremendously helpful.

I put the thermocouple on the back of the stove pipe when I replaced the pipe last year. It's practically out of sight now.

 

[begreen]

Where it's practical, I prefer a probe in the actual flue gases. It affords near real time feedback on the fire. This is especially helpful during the initial heating up of the wood load when flue temps rise sharply and rapidly if not curtailed by air control adjustment. Tracking stovepipe temps on double-wall is not effective.

I'll contact the company to ask if they are working on this feature. The Tempsure is more attractive and has some nice features. I'll also ask if it has an internal alarm or is the alarm only on the phone?

They got back to me right away. The good news is that they have a probe option at no extra cost. Joel said to just request the probe when ordering. I suggested this info be added to the website. The not so good news is the way the alarm has been implemented. There is no physical alarm. It just sends an email or text to your phone. That won't cut it for us. By the time the email comes through the horse may be already out of the barn. Also, we don't carry our phones around all the time and my hearing needs a loud alarm that is not easy to ignore. The Auber has this feature. I can't miss their alarm. It's annoying and persistent. I've put in a request to be notified when a physical alarm has been added.

 

[Trevor Tahclep]

Begreen can an alarm be sent via wi-fi to a any computer ?

 

[begreen]

I don't know. He didn't mention that.

 

[indymoose]

Following up here, I have not found a satisfactory analog stove pipe thermometer that is rated for installation near the stove (whether probe or magnet). I did confirm that the Tempsure magnet and probe can be installed "anywhere on the pipe. 5-6" above the stove will work fine." But I would prefer an analog option.

Does anyone have any familiarity with thermometers like these? Any other recommendations or advice?

 

[begreen]

Following up here, I have not found a satisfactory analog stove pipe thermometer that is rated for installation near the stove (whether probe or magnet). I did confirm that the Tempsure magnet and probe can be installed "anywhere on the pipe. 5-6" above the stove will work fine." But I would prefer an analog option.

Does anyone have any familiarity with thermometers like these? Any other recommendations or advice?

That could work. I like the industrial aethetic. How will the probe be connected? I'm not sure about mounting this on a flexible liner. Will rigid liner be used here?

 

[Trevor Tahclep]

Requires a 1/2 inch hole to be drilled to install it, this will need something solid to mount in and make sure there can be no electrolysis between 2 different materials.

 

[MongoMongoson]

When picking an install point, remember that you will want to remove a probe when cleaning the stove pipe. Maybe you will like the looks of it higher up but you will need to get to it once or twice per year.

The Smokey Lake monitor looks cool, but they have you drilling a hole and threading in a 1/2" NPT fitting into that hole. Maybe that is OK. You are only going to have one thread of engagement, though. Seems a little sketchy to me to have in your home and it is a big hole! It is close to 3/4', but under that. You want the hole just big enough to start the thread of a 1/2 NPT fitting.

They have an install video here:

Understanding Stack Temperature | Smoky Lake Maple Products, LLC

Today, we are installing and testing our new Smoky Lake Stack Temp Thermometer on Jimmy’s legacy Corsair evaporator. After running the evaporator with the Stack Thermometer, we’ll determine Jimmy’s optimal temperature for adding wood to his firebox. Video Table of Contents 2:17 Mounting the...

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[indymoose]

Thanks all, I am definitely going to look for a different model. As you noted, this would be overkill for my purposes. I just wanted to make sure that this type of setup made sense (an analog thermometer with a separate probe). It seems to solve my problem, which is that all of the stovepipe thermometers that are marketed for woodstoves, whether probe or magnet, do not seem to be rated for installation any lower than 12" above the stove.

I would install the probe in the stovepipe, maybe on the back of the pipe like @begreen 's setup.

 

[begreen]

Thanks all, I am definitely going to look for a different model. As you noted, this would be overkill for my purposes. I just wanted to make sure that this type of setup made sense (an analog thermometer with a separate probe). It seems to solve my problem, which is that all of the stovepipe thermometers that are marketed for woodstoves, whether probe or magnet, do not seem to be rated for installation any lower than 12" above the stove.

I would install the probe in the stovepipe, maybe on the back of the pipe like @begreen 's setup.

Just to clarify, stovepipe does not run up the chimney. A stainless chimney liner, rgid or flexible, is required.