After all the research and reading on this site, I went ahead and purchased my Avalon Olympic in late April. We originally planned to get it installed as an insert, but decided against it because we didn't want to see all the black of the surround. We are very happy with the way it looks and even happier with the way it throws heat. I can't wait to start using it consistently, as we have just used it on 4 or 5 cooler nights. Let me know what you think......