Need to identify New (Old) Hearthstone Mansfield

[Joodle]

This is my first posting, so I may sound uninformed (which I am about Soap stone wood stoves) We just purchased an older model of Hearthstone Mansfield wood stove. It is in excellent condition inside and out except just to have new rope gaskets on doors. I can't find anything that looks just like it. It is very ornate with the "duck feet" legs and has the brown enamel. We had lots of people ask us about it when it was on the back of the truck. It does not have an ash pan and it does have the side door. It has the metal plate on the back that says Hearthstone 1 Fireplace It has WH-then scratched in, 8100, then stamped in 1853 It was signed by Alan B. in the bottom right stone. I will see how to download a picture on here. It looks like new. We paid $600 Any Hearthstone experts out there??

 

[begreen]

Sounds like it might be a Hearthstone H1. Does it have double doors like this one?
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/my-hearthstone-i.104076/page-3

 

[Joodle]

Sounds like it might be a Hearthstone H1. Does it have double doors like this one?
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/my-hearthstone-i.104076/page-3

I have pictures of it on my iPhone, but I don't know how to get them on this site

 

[begreen]

Did you look at the stove in the link I provided?

Here is how to post pictures to the site.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/putting-images-into-your-forums-posts.87212/

 

[Joodle]

Did you look at the stove in the link I provided?

Here is how to post pictures to the site.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/putting-images-into-your-forums-posts.87212/

This is the best I can do right now. I plead stupid due to illness.

 

[Joodle]

View attachment 139731 This is the best I can do right now. I plead stupid due to illness.

 

[begreen]

This is not a Mansfield. It looks like a Hearthstone I fireplace, model 8100 and appears to be in nice shape. How does it look inside?

 

[Joodle]

That looks like a Hearthstone I fireplace, model 8100. It appears to be in nice shape. How does it look inside?

It appears very lightly used. There is no warping of the metal curved ceiling, or anywhere else, damper intact and hardly used, and no cracked stones anywhere except for a couple on the bottom of the stove that sit on top of a metal plate. We paid $600 for it. It looks like it was only used when the power went out. It sat in the basement of a McMansion. It came with an enameled side warming shelf kit that is still packed in the shipping box. It also came with a rectangular enameled frame that we dont know what it is for and a curved burning screen to have on the open door. I feel we did well, did we?

 

[Parallax]

Can't answer your question. Like you, I'm a newbie. Just wanted to compliment you on the stove itself. What a beauty!

 

[begreen]

It appears very lightly used. There is no warping of the metal curved ceiling, or anywhere else, damper intact and hardly used, and no cracked stones anywhere except for a couple on the bottom of the stove that sit on top of a metal plate. We paid $600 for it. It looks like it was only used when the power went out. It sat in the basement of a McMansion. It came with an enameled side warming shelf kit that is still packed in the shipping box. It also came with a rectangular enameled frame that we dont know what it is for and a curved burning screen to have on the open door. I feel we did well, did we?

Yes, you did well. That's a nice find. This is a big old hunk of stone but at least it had a basic secondary air system (vent opening on the right side), thermostatic control, and with a very big belly. The air wash is not great and it will eat a bit more wood, but once that stone is warm it will heat very evenly for hours. Feed it big chunks of well seasoned doug fir and it will burn for many hours. A friend has the older version of this stove in a pretty leaky house with lots of glass. It's always comfortable there. Be sure to hook it up to an 8" flue.

Edit, looks like the fireplace version is just that. I see no thermostatic damper or secondary air feed. These features were on the full H1 model. That will affect efficiency, but I suspect a secondary tube system could be retrofitted by someone that is handy

 

[begreen]

Here's an interior blowup diagram:
(broken link removed to http://woodheatstoves.com/download/H-IFireplace8100%20exp.pdf)

Looking at this I am wondering where the heck is the air intake control?

 

[Joodle]

Here's an interior blowup diagram:
(broken link removed to http://woodheatstoves.com/download/H-IFireplace8100%20exp.pdf)

Looking at this I am wondering where the heck is the air intake control?

It has a knob on the side door for air. You just can't see it in the picture. Any idea on date it was made?

 

[begreen]

The diagram says Production Dates: October 1990 - August 1998

 

[Joodle]

Is this stove EPA certified?

 

[sticks]

It is EPA exempt because of the amount of combustion air it allows in on low.

 

[Joodle]

It is EPA exempt because of the amount of combustion air it allows in on low.[/qu
Can you explain this please?

 

[begreen]

It is not an EPA stove because it has not passed EPA emissions requirements. It is not supposed to be resold in WA and definitely will not qualify for new home construction or inspection. It is EPA exempt because there is an exception for stoves that have a 35 to 1 air ratio.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/wiki/epa-exempt-stoves/

 

[Parallax]

It is not an EPA stove because it has not passed EPA emissions requirements. It is not supposed to be resold in WA and definitely will not qualify for new home construction or inspection. It is EPA exempt because there is an exception for stoves that have a 35 to 1 air ratio.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/wiki/epa-exempt-stoves/

Can one get any used stove to pass inspection in Washington? I was led to believe that, here in Whatcom County, it's almost impossible to get approval for any previously used stove. Would require an expert to certify that it's still up to speed, which would mean certifying that it still functions above the guidelines. Who could possibly certify that and what kind of testing would be required?

 

[begreen]

That is the first time I have heard that. It would be an impossible task without expensive lab testing. Sounds like someone was blowing smoke. A modern EPA stove, new or used, should pass inspection easily as long as it has been properly installed.

 

[Parallax]

Yes, the guy was probably blowing smoke. Same fella was trying to sell me a cape cod, installed, for $9k or $10k depending on the installation. Found out later on how expensive that was. Glad I didn't buy that stove (from any dealer) (or any other stove from that guy).

 

[Joodle]

This is not a Mansfield. It looks like a Hearthstone I fireplace, model 8100 and appears to be in nice shape. How does it look inside?

We got the huge 729 lb Hearthstone I fireplace
down off the truck using a "cherry picker" engine hoist. My husband, being an eagle scout, was able to fancy tie some powerful straps and lift it off the truck and down onto a large furniture mover. We haven't gotten it into the house yet as it was getting dark. It's sitting under a tarp on our covered patio. We do need to add some rock to the end door side of the stove pad, as it isn't quite wide enough. It does sit on slab cement, so it should be easy to remove the carpet and apply non combustible material. Anyone know of any websites for ideas in adding on to stove pads without it looking stupid? I was thinking of adding a tile "rug" to the side using mosaic or a fun tile pattern. I'm pretty handy and I want something fun. I dont' want it to look awkward being only on one side.

 

[begreen]

The pad extension will need to be insulated. Not sure to what value though. Did it come with a manual? This is what the manual says for the H1.

 

[Joodle]

The pad extension will need to be insulated. Not sure to what value though. Did it come with a manual? This is what the manual says for the H1.

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I don't understand why the pad extension needs to be insulated, as it will be on daylight basement slab floor, once we take up the carpet and pad. Also, as it seems you know a lot of stuff, I noticed a long rectangular metal or cast iron piece that sits on the end wall opposite the side loading door, that has lots of vertical grooves in it and a hole at the front end. It sits out from the wall end about 1/3 inch. It had lots of ash packed in it and behind it. I cleaned this out carefully. The unit also has a little protrusion in the end loading door that looks like a thermometer or something. It appears a small circular piece was on the out side but seems to be missing. there are tiny little spots in the enamel in a small circular pattern with a center that looks like its from the inside piece. It has an added turn knob on the end door too, for air control. It was an add on piece. It doesn't show these pieces in the blow up picture of the pieces of the unit. I will try to get pictures. I've seen the grooved rectangular piece in other peoples stoves, it just doesn't show it on my picture.

 

[begreen]

You are correct. No need for insulation if this is a slab floor.