Need your help please,is this a good price?

[kniffin50]

Harman P43- $2600 -plus $850 installation including 20ft of lining in existing 6inch exterior chimney from wood stove. Not including ct. sales tax. It sounds good to me,what to you think? Salesperson also said must burn premium hardwood pellets. Is this true? Thank You for all replies Rusty

 

[Bioburner]

Harman P series are known to not need so called premium pellets

 

[DAKSY]

The P43 will burn almost anything. Your salesperson needs to do his/her homework.

 

[kniffin50]

thanks, I thought it would burn lesser quality pellets. Rusty

 

[Tonyray]

thanks, I thought it would burn lesser quality pellets. Rusty

Paid 3700 for a new Harman P 61A So sounds like a good price..
Nix on the " must burn" hardwood Premium pellets..
I don't think any Pellet stove comes with a Must burn whatever Tag....
Harmans will pretty much burn anything with no problems..Even pellets that are Not consistant in size.
Unless u buy crappy Dog food looking pellets in which case you'll do a lot of un-necessary internal cleaning you should be fine with almost any name brand used here in the forum.
Have burned many tons of Energex Hardwood premiums[250.ton] along with HD Stove Chow hardwoods [229.00 ton].
Also your choice of Softwoods as many here like to burn them...Not sure what the draw is for softwood pellets. someone prob chime in about them.
Either way, should prob buy a few bags of any brands u can and try them out before getting a huge quantity.

 

[Boomer Sailor]

One of Harman's selling points is that it can burn any type of pellet well due to it's 'automatic' features, etc. - but there is definitely no need to burn premium pellets.

Of course the question of "should you burn better pellets", well, just check out all the threads on here - you will find more opinions than you might imagine. My philosophy is better pellets = happier stove! (less ash, less cleaning, higher btu output can equal less pellets required to burn... bla bla bla)

 

[DAKSY]

{{Also your choice of Softwoods as many here like to burn them...Not sure what the draw is for softwood pellets. someone prob chime in about them.}}

More BTUs in the softwood pellets due to the resins. Tend to burn a little cleaner & leave less ash. I'm gonna give the Cleanfire Softwoods a try this winter. Placing my order this week. A little more pricy, but if they keep the new GF warm, BOTH of us will be happy...

 

[Boomer Sailor]

{{Also your choice of Softwoods as many here like to burn them...Not sure what the draw is for softwood pellets. someone prob chime in about them.}}

More BTUs in the softwood pellets due to the resins. Tend to burn a little cleaner & leave less ash. I'm gonna give the Cleanfire Softwoods a try this winter. Placing my order this week. A little more pricy, but if they keep the new GF warm, BOTH of us will be happy...

Regarding your softwood's description.... that is what I'm hoping to discover this upcoming season - I hope all the hype is true - I have 3 tons of hype in the garage!!

 

[Ctcarl]

A harman will burn anything. From my experience when using green supreme that cost less after my pull out cleaning every ton and a half it was filthy.When I put my 25 ft fiber Glass rod up the flu .there was buckets of white ash.after burning a ton and a half of green team.it was 60% less ash in the flu.So this year I spent the extra and got my 4 tons of green team.So yes a harman will burn it but if you do your own cleanings it will be a bit more dirty .I am also in Ct and valley fireplace in canton gave me the best price and great customer service on my harman p35i

 

[kniffin50]

thats the shop,good to know your happy with the service. Thanks Rusty

 

[Ctcarl]

thats the shop,good to know your happy with the service. Thanks Rusty

Paul did my install .i had a list of questions for him.he was nice answering everything.Get some pics when she's up and running.tell paul the optician from newington says hi

 

[Joe B One925]

Where in ct? I'm looking for an installer in brimfield ma if anyone knows of a person .. Need to put a 4" liner in my existing stainless steel chimney .. Just a tricky pitch to get upon the roof ..

 

[Lake Girl]

Is running a liner up the wood stove chimney the best option? I know you can get adapters to reduce opening to pellet pipe size...

Prefer the softwoods but local suppliers are interesting in their pellet purchases...

 

[Joe B One925]

I thought that in order to connect a pellet to an existing wood stove chimney you had to put a liner insert..

 

[Lake Girl]

I thought that in order to connect a pellet to an existing wood stove chimney you had to put a liner insert..

What would be the cost difference of installing a complete pellet pipe with adapter to reduce exterior hole from wood chimney vs. the liner? How tough is the maintenance on a liner vs. pellet pipe? Are they installing an OAK (outside air kit)? Just the questions I would ask...

 

[Joe B One925]

Well since I would have the pellet stove in our finished basement I'm dealing w concrete walls and my wife isn't thrilled w the idea of drilling a new hole... So we thought of using our existing setup from the wood stove

 

[Lake Girl]

You could remove existing wood stove piping, install reducer in existing hole in the wall, install pellet pipe. If you use the existing wood stove chimney, you do have to use a liner.

How long of a run is your existing chimney and what size liner did they quote - 3" or 4"?

Just trying to make sure your new install does not give you grief later on...

 

[Joe B One925]

My existing chimney has a run of about 18 - 20ft (excluding of course the pipe from the thimble to the outside. I called an installer this morning, coming on Monday.
I'm gonna see how much it costs to install my englander 25PVD, and using my existing wood stove chimney noted above. Anyone have an idea of what I should expect to pay for something like this? Sorry if i'm getting off topic..

 

[DAKSY]

Well you have to add ALL the lengths together with a pellet burner.
Generally speaking, anything over 15 feet in length, requires 4" venting,
& even that will put a strain on your combustion blower.
Going up to 6" for that length is far from Ideal.
Even installing a new liner, the whole job shouldn't take more than 2.5 - 3 hours.
Add the cost of the materials to the labor & you're probably about $1K...

 

[Joe B One925]

Thanks for the input Daksy. I was even considering removing a portion of the chimney outside to reduce the amount of run.
I took a few pics to show what my setup is...

 

[DAKSY]

If you're not ever going back to wood, you might think of removing ALL of it & selling it to offset the cost of the pellet vent.
A 4" liner is probably $500. 3" pellet vent up & out (& maybe up again) might be half of that...
'Course you've got a couple of holes in the roof & soffit to repair
& you may need more hydraulic cement to seal the PV where it passes thru the foundation...

 

[Joe B One925]

I definitely won't be going back to wood since we put a new addition on home, which is why we are switching to pellets. So does anyone think its possible to remove a portion of the chimney or will it all just tumble down to the ground? I know its braced pretty good up on the roof. To avoid having to fix that hole in the roof from the chimney, I guess I was thinking of removing a portion of it, and then just putting a 4" line insert into the part that is still existing below.

 

[Polar Bear]

I ripped my wood stove pipe out completely... much cleaner looking. Not a terribly difficult repair job on the roof. You will enjoy not climbing up a ladder to clean the pipe. Mark my words.

 

[Joe B One925]

Even if i took out the existing chimney, I have no clue how I would get the outside air kit setup since I'm dealing that concrete foundation wall. In my head its tough to justify paying $1K, when the englander will cost me the same. Sounds ridiculous..

 

[DAKSY]

That $1k has the $500 liner in it.
New pellet vent - thru the existing foundation hole with a fresh air attachment,
might cost you $500 TOTAL, probably less.