Does your one switch reverting to normal operation just kill the power to the relays and then use the nc contacts for the three position switch?
The Nest seems to favor staged startups and abrupt shutdowns. In cold weather, I can see that starting on stage 1 isn't going to gain ground in heating, but Nest has to try before graduating to stage 2 and stage 3. When it achieves its target, it abruptly shuts the pellet stove down. The puts the yurt temperature into freefall. Once Nest determines that it has to start the stove again, it has to go through the stages again even though stage 1 is demonstrably insufficient and lets the temperature fall even further. I'd like to try that reversed: start on high, get the room up to temperature quickly, then ramp down until a stable state is found.
I would really like to have control of my stove with my iPhone.
So there's this thing called the "internet"... And not to alarm you, but you 're actually already using it!Install that baby and the government will have control as well. No thanks, I'll pass!
So there's this thing called the "internet"... And not to alarm you, but you 're actually already using it!
And having installed one of these stats for our regular HVAC, I assure you all is well (and it saves us money). And no tinfoil hats required.
Have one (a smart home). Love it. Had another before this one, too. Probably no sense debating all that on this thread, as those who believe the government wants to control them have made up their minds.Yes . . . I use it. BUT . . . my life is not controlled by it. I own no devices which are controlled via the internet and never will. Do a little reading (on the Internet if you must) about the so called Smart Grid, Smart Homes and the like. Stocked up on old fashioned light bulbs too!
Is t there a swing setting? I think over time if you keep resetting the temp NEST will learn to adjust the swing, yes?
Just curious...couldn't you just leave the unit on high and let nest do its work with the unit running at maximum efficiency? I mean, the unit was designed to run on a tstat anyway. Is it that you seek the modulation of a quieter running stove as the yurt achieves the set point?Nest has taken a very Apple-like approach to consumer hardware - do not pester the owner with confusing details or settings. I would assume that Nest has a "swing", but it is not a setting that is exposed to the end user in anyway. I suspect that the "swing" is one of the thing that Nest "learns". Time will tell, going to give Nest until mid Feb to became educated. If it isn't doing what I want, then I'll proceed with the next version of this project: automatic staged shutdown.
Just curious...couldn't you just leave the unit on high and let nest do its work with the unit running at maximum efficiency?
A call to Nest support might be in order. ... But a call to Nest might be the best idea, to ask their opinion.
The Nest does a very good job of figuring out your system in terms of figuring out how long that system takes to bring a home up to, or BACK up to, the desired temp - and that is what a "swing setting" (or temperature differential) is manually trying to address. So, while you can't set that manually with a Nest, it's because it is figuring things out with more complicated calculations on its own.
Bummer that they can't help, Twobraids, but I can also understand their stance.
I'm still thinking that telling it you have a gas furnace is the closest you'll come to getting the settings somewhat close, but that's only speculation.
I can confirm in the settings for the Nest that it is still in "learning mode" on "Time to Temp". I'm patient, I'll give it time to figure things out. If it doesn't, then I'll hack together another method of accomplishing what I want. It's all fun.
Something that I should say is that I'm not at all disappointed with the performance of Nest or my adapter. While it is not running perfectly, it is running without my constant attention. That's a win for me.
I was in Silicon Valley just before the storms and I spoke with an employee at Nest over coffee. He suggested that the normal use of three stage heat doesn't translate well into simple high/medium/low. As I surmised in an earlier post, stage 3 is "emergency" heat - usually electric and the stage that folks want as a last resort. For my application, I want it as the first resort, not the last.
Yes. Check out Twobraids blog where he connects his Santa Fe to a Nest:Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I've just found a 1 year old Quadrafire Santa Fe insert to replace my old Whitfield Quest for the basement office (no worries, fellow Whitfield lovers - I'll move the old girl to another location - just need auto ignite). Anyway... Has anyone made more progress on hooking up a smart thermostat to their pellet stove, other than "on/off"?
I am a big fan of Nest for our regular HVAC. It saves us a bundle, even when we just run it on a regular schedule without sensing whether we're home or not, as it controls the use of emergency heat very well on "max savings" mode. But that's exactly the opposite of what one wants for a pellet stove, as TwoBraids discovered, as we want the stove to start on high, then back off and just maintain temps. I have my eye on an Ecobee, but need to read up on them. Anyway, has anyone played around with this more, and advanced the art a bit beyond just turning the stove on and off, which Is of course simple to achieve.
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