New 1000 HP corvette too powerful for the frame.

[Seasoned Oak]

I can imagine how it trashes the tires.
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[peakbagger]

Unfortunately the sun has set on gas engines being the quickest vehicles. They may no have the top end but given the lack of autobahns in the US and the probable demise of them in Germany, generally its the zero 60 (or 100) is far more important than top speed except for bragging I get the reason for them to get built as folks are always going to have a mid life crisis but expect the vast majority will be parked in the garage and traded when the next greatest thing comes out. I I did own a GMC Syclone for few years, it was quite impressive how all wheel drive and really wide tires could put down a lot of power without smoking the tires but expect with the horsepower they are talking about the tires makers will make a mint.

 

[SpaceBus]

Unfortunately the sun has set on gas engines being the quickest vehicles. They may no have the top end but given the lack of autobahns in the US and the probable demise of them in Germany, generally its the zero 60 (or 100) is far more important than top speed except for bragging I get the reason for them to get built as folks are always going to have a mid life crisis but expect the vast majority will be parked in the garage and traded when the next greatest thing comes out. I I did own a GMC Syclone for few years, it was quite impressive how all wheel drive and really wide tires could put down a lot of power without smoking the tires but expect with the horsepower they are talking about the tires makers will make a mint.

There are a few gasoline ICE advancmenets still to come I think. Mazda just perfected a nearly spark free Ignition for a gasoline engine. Nissan/Infiniti have designed a variable compression engine. I agree that the ICE has probably reached its peak. Once storage is figured out better electric will take over. I'll miss gas powered race cars and the like, particularly high strung low displacement engines and the big block V8s of the past. The new Formula E, and too a lesser extent F1, have serious sound issues and it makes the race much less exciting. Well, aside from noise F1 has been boring for a while.

Electric tractors and pickup trucks can't come soon to enough for me. Only race cars and sports cars should be loud. Work equipment is wonderful when it is quiet.

 

[peakbagger]

The Mazda Compression Ignition gas engine is potential a game changer. Basically a diesel cycle that runs on gas https://www.motortrend.com/news/mazda-to-launch-compression-ignition-gas-engine-by-2019/

I am rooting for Liquid Piston for the next engine. http://liquidpiston.com/ A compact rotary that in theory solves the problems with a NSU/Wankel design. Might give the 2 stroke Rotax a run for its money.

 

[SpaceBus]

The Mazda Compression Ignition gas engine is potential a game changer. Basically a diesel cycle that runs on gas https://www.motortrend.com/news/mazda-to-launch-compression-ignition-gas-engine-by-2019/

I am rooting for Liquid Piston for the next engine. http://liquidpiston.com/ A compact rotary that in theory solves the problems with a NSU/Wankel design. Might give the 2 stroke Rotax a run for its money.

I love me some Wankel engines, and that Liquid Piston engine is really neat. Packaging seems like it may be a concern with super hot exhaust gasses, particularly on the Diesel, exiting around the output side of the crank. I'm hoping it works out, especially with their claimed gains, noise levels, and ability to scale. I am also quite partial to Mazda, and raced a Miata before the head gasket let go and I parked it in 2016. Their new engine isn't quite full compression ignition like a diesel, but it is quite close. I'm excited to see what the aftermarket does with these things. Maybe in a few years we will be in a position to pick up a third car, and a Mazda with the new HCCI engine would be killer. Especially if they bring it to a fun AWD car with nice suspension travel.

 

[SpaceBus]

I have yet to see how fuel is delivered or it gets lubrication. The whole reason Wankel engines don't work is the total loss lubrication system.

 

[Jan Pijpelink]

I have yet to see how fuel is delivered or it gets lubrication. The whole reason Wankel engines don't work is the total loss lubrication system.

The lubricant in gasoline is Sulfur. It lubricates the fuel pump and other parts of the engine. It was Lead in the past, but we all know what happened (Lead is bad, we're all gonna die). The EPA wants to ban Sulfur from fuels (acid rain, we're all gonna die) and now the oil companies and the car manufacturers are working together to find a replacement for Sulfur with the same properties, but less bad for the environment (we're all gonna die).

 

[SpaceBus]

The lubricant in gasoline is Sulfur. It lubricates the fuel pump and other parts of the engine. It was Lead in the past, but we all know what happened (Lead is bad, we're all gonna die). The EPA wants to ban Sulfur from fuels (acid rain, we're all gonna die) and now the oil companies and the car manufacturers are working together to find a replacement for Sulfur with the same properties, but less bad for the environment (we're all gonna die).

Sulphur won't lubricate the main shaft bearings and the metal surfaces inside that rotor housing. This is why traditional rotary designs (Wankel) require oil with the intake charge like a two stroke engine.

Lead in petrol was more of a cushioning agent for the intake and exhaust valves. This was overcome with hardened valve seats. Some racing petrol blends still have leaded fuel. Old engines didn't need fuel pump lubrication as they were mechanical pumps driven by the camshaft.

 

[Jan Pijpelink]

Sulphur won't lubricate the main shaft bearings and the metal surfaces inside that rotor housing. This is why traditional rotary designs (Wankel) require oil with the intake charge like a two stroke engine.

Lead in petrol was more of a cushioning agent for the intake and exhaust valves. This was overcome with hardened valve seats. Some racing petrol blends still have leaded fuel. Old engines didn't need fuel pump lubrication as they were mechanical pumps driven by the camshaft.

As I have worked in an engine lab at an oil refinery (as a petroleum chemist), I was told Lead was both a lubricant as well as an Octane booster. The problem began when the EPA banned Lead and oil companies had to find a replacement. For the Octane boosting property, Benzene and Toluene were chosen to replace Lead and they are much worse for the environment and human health. As far as the lubricant, the choice was Sulfur. When burning Sulfur, you get SO2. SO2 and rain will get us H2SO4 (Sulfuric acid) via H2SO3. So, Sulfur will be banned soon.

 

[Ashful]

I get the reason for them to get built as folks are always going to have a mid life crisis but expect the vast majority will be parked in the garage and traded when the next greatest thing comes out.

I normally enjoy your posts, peakbagger, but that's the biggest bunch of BS you've ever written. The folks buying 1000 hp cars are suffering from a crisis that begins by age 16, the only thing that changes at mid-life is the budget.

The guys suffering from mid-life crises are buying 300 hp cars that look like 1000 hp cars, on one-third the budget.

 

[SpaceBus]

I normally enjoy your posts, peakbagger, but that's the biggest bunch of BS you've ever written. The folks buying 1000 hp cars are suffering from a crisis that begins by age 16, the only thing that changes at mid-life is the budget.

The guys suffering from mid-life crises are buying 300 hp cars that look like 1000 hp cars, on one-third the budget.



 

[bholler]

I normally enjoy your posts, peakbagger, but that's the biggest bunch of BS you've ever written. The folks buying 1000 hp cars are suffering from a crisis that begins by age 16, the only thing that changes at mid-life is the budget.

The guys suffering from mid-life crises are buying 300 hp cars that look like 1000 hp cars, on one-third the budget.

Yeah usually 911s lol.

 

[SpaceBus]

Yeah usually 911s lol.

Hey, 911's are awesome cars, so I can't blame them. But yeah, absolutely useless on public roads.

 

[Jan Pijpelink]

People (men) buying these kind of cars need them to compensate for something.

 

[bholler]

Hey, 911's are awesome cars, so I can't blame them. But yeah, absolutely useless on public roads.

I have driven a fair number of sports cars on the track and I really don't like their driving dynamics. Yes they can be very fast but it takes allot more work to drive them fast and it isn't nearly as much fun. Now apparently the awd ones are very different but to get that you are talking allot more money.

 

[bholler]

People (men) buying these kind of cars need them to compensate for something.

I don't buy them I just have friends that do. And because most of them have no idea how to work on them or track prep them. Or work on anything else around their house for that matter they let me drive lots of fun stuff.

 

[Ashful]

You know, the 911 is a neat car. I've never owned one, but if I had infinite money and garage space, I think I would. The only real problem with owning one, as you mentioned, is all the yuppie owners that give you a bad image by association.

 

[bholler]

You know, the 911 is a neat car. I've never owned one, but if I had infinite money and garage space, I think I would. The only real problem with owning one, as you mentioned, is all the yuppie owners that give you a bad image by association.

Nope I wouldn't buy one regardless. There are lots of other cars or things I would rather spend that money on. I am just not a fan. Many are though so to each their own.

 

[Ashful]

People (men) buying these kind of cars need them to compensate for something.

Nah, those guys put smoke stacks, visors, running lights and miles of chrome on their pickup trucks. Guys buying 1000 hp cars are just pure motor heads, this ain't your grandma's LT1.

 

[bholler]

You know, the 911 is a neat car. I've never owned one, but if I had infinite money and garage space, I think I would. The only real problem with owning one, as you mentioned, is all the yuppie owners that give you a bad image by association.

Now that I have garage space I may build a track car once I am done going over my bronco. It will probably just be a Miata but those little things are just plain fun to drive. And it doesn't take much money to add enough power to make them pretty fast.

 

[bholler]

I would gladly buy an m3 though and I think they have a worse yuppie image lol. But they are tons of fun to throw around.

 

[Ashful]

Now that I have garage space I may build a track car once I am done going over my bronco. It will probably just be a Miata but those little things are just plain fun to drive. And it doesn't take much money to add enough power to make them pretty fast.

Okay... that's when I'm headed over to ches bholler for a beer and some entertainment. Screw the Miata! I vote we start with the Drag Pak, they're pure evil.

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[bholler]

Okay... that's when I'm headed over to ches bholler for a beer and some entertainment. Screw the Miata! I vote we start with the Drag Pak, they're pure evil.

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j/k on the Miata, I helped a buddy do a custom turbocharger and injection on his 1990 model in our 20's.

Yeah they are cool but only in a straight line lol.

 

[Ashful]

I actually helped a buddy build up a 1990 Miata with custom turbocharger and custom injection. That thing was a heck of a lot of fun, he had it lowered to where it felt like the door handles were knee height. It rusted mighty young, though.

 

[bholler]

Not that I would turn down the chance to drive one.