New member and some help needed!

[tjcole50]

Hello everyone, great site! I have been lurking for far to long. I currently have a dilemma I am in need of as far as safety is concerned. I have a very nice country comfort in the main room of my A-frame home which works great! Now in the basement it is piped for a second burner which I plan on adding asap. This is hard to explain/picture but I will try my best and also add pictures once I am home.
My basement has a nice brick hearth and a circle section of clay tile right above where the brick stops. Now I have pictures at home but when I look through the tile I see just block work and my foundation. Now right above the circular tile is where my clay tile flue work begins. I am most concerned with just straight piping from a 90 degree off the stove itself and running that straight facing the block work. It seems to me the stove pipe should bend 90 degrees upward to allow the smoke to exit into the tile instead of running straight back to my exterior foundation/block wall. Another problem is there is no way to fit a 90 connection through the tile to allow this? Excuse my grammar I hate typing on phones. But if you can picture this until I get pics, any help at all is greatly appreciated!

 

[tjcole50]

Ok so I was wrong. After closer inspection the flue work does reach the bottom of circle tile from the wall. Question is is it enough or does some sort of angled pipe need to be ran and pointed up the flue? Thanks

 

[Woody Stover]

It seems to me the stove pipe should bend 90 degrees upward to allow the smoke to exit into the tile instead of running straight back to my exterior foundation/block wall. Another problem is there is no way to fit a 90 connection through the tile to allow this?

Welcome, tj.
I'm not quite seeing this in my head without the pics but yes, the minimum is stove pipe extending into the vertical clay tile of the chimney and sealed (direct connection.) Better yet is a stainless liner running all the way to the top (positive connection.) You may need this depending on the condition of the clay tile liner. Round tile liner or rectangular? Dimensions?

 

[tjcole50]

I tried to add a picture. Sealed as in how it seems the bottom chamber of the rectangle verticals tile just stops and opens up beneath it.



Hope I'm going about this the right way with the pics not sure about forum rules. Just trying to get this figured out . I believe the tile is in excellent shap this is a verticals shot all the way up and zooming in you can see my recently installed cap

 

[begreen]

Merged the photos into one post.

They make special liner tee fittings that solve this problem. You attach it to the liner without the tee snout. Then pull it down the chimney and attach the snout in place.

 

[tjcole50]

Having a hard time visioning this. Not new to burning wood but install I am. Now if I drop all the way down the chimney that is a long way not sure I understand how to connect. There is no way I can see getting any connection besides a straight piece through my basement wall. Thanks for merging pics!

 

[rowerwet]

if it is like the liner I put in for my oil boiler, there is a straight piece you attach to the end of the chimney liner, the straight piece has a hole in the side. you pull the end down untit the hole lines up with the hole in the chimney. then you stick the thimble through and attach it to the striaght piece. the attaching hardware (a worm screw) is on the inside of the pipe and snugs the end of the thimble tightly to the straight piece.

 

[tjcole50]

Any reference pics? Lol or something to specifically google?

 

[rowerwet]

(broken link removed to http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forever-Flex-316-Ti-Stainless-Steel-Chimney-Liner-Kit-with-Tee-6-x-20-length-/190909408630?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c73166576)
this will give you the idea, the quick T part is the part the stove connects too

 

[tjcole50]

Very nice thank you. Easy to see now just cap that bottom T. Do you know the price of that section alone minus all others? I'm still at a loss of how to properly get that into position ?

 

[rowerwet]

without the chimney liner you won't get it in place easily. your flue can take the smoke hitting the back wall without any help if it is in good shape. My woodstove just exits horizontally into the vertical tile flue, it has been firing like this as long as I can remember (30+ years) I sweep it and check it with a strong flashlight each fall.
If you really want to put a T inside the chimney, drop it on a rope, tie it off at the thimble and connect it. I would ask a chimney sweep/flue installer before you went to all this trouble though.

 

[begreen]

Go to one of the big liner sales companies and read up on their installation docs and check out their videos. I think you'll find them very helpful.

http://www.chimneylinerdepot.com/
http://www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/

 

[tjcole50]

without the chimney liner you won't get it in place easily. your flue can take the smoke hitting the back wall without any help if it is in good shape. My woodstove just exits horizontally into the vertical tile flue, it has been firing like this as long as I can remember (30+ years) I sweep it and check it with a strong flashlight each fall.
If you really want to put a T inside the chimney, drop it on a rope, tie it off at the thimble and connect it. I would ask a chimney sweep/flue installer before you went to all this trouble though.

Hey rower thanks. Guess I'm still concerned with the flue stopping there and not running all the way down. Some guys at work say they have their tile all the way to the ground but mine stops as seen in the pic