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coachk

New Member
Jan 13, 2021
54
Gloucester, VA
Looking for small stove to take chill off, add ambiance, and help out heat pump when really cold. Also, needs to burn biowood well when chordwood not available
1-Steel or cast iron?
2-radiant or convection?
3-fan or no fan?
4-brands to go with, stay away from
5-glass front door
6-legs of some type, no pedestal
7-meets tax credit standards a plus, but not a necessity.
I'm sure I will think of something else if someone doesn't bring it up first.
thanks in advance
 
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begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
87,751
South Puget Sound, WA
Hard to say without knowing what is being heated and how large an area.
 

EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
737
SE North Carolina
Another question to ask is do you want a catalytic converter or or not. The list is very small for non-cat tax credit eligible stoves. But most of them are small. I like my non cat stove. based on what I've seen Moroso by far has the best reputation for small non-cat tax credit eligible stoves. They are just a bit smaller than I would like.
Evan
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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coachk

New Member
Jan 13, 2021
54
Gloucester, VA
begreen-thanks for the info, I completed my HW assignment:)
I used to have med dutchwest stove that I burned in our basement and grew up burning wood. We are in the process of of finishing the final phase of our remodel. I thought I was dead set on a pellet stove but have since realized that that burning manufactured wood might meet the level of convenience I am looking for when needed.
I have a rancher that has been remodeled. About 1000 square feet of main living space with 600 of it being wide open while the other part of it has a fairly large cased opening. I'm not looking to use as primary heat. I have a heat pump and live in coastal va where the temps are fairly mild minus a few cold snaps. I am intested in burning biobricks or something similar along with supplementing with some chordwood when available. The Morso 3112 and 3114 have caught my eye.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
87,751
South Puget Sound, WA
The little Morso will suffice as a chill chaser. It needs small pieces of wood for fuel. When Hampton returns with a 2020 compliant H200, that would be a nice alternative.

Is the ceiling height 8' in the main living space?
 
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begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
87,751
South Puget Sound, WA
It's a small, radiant stove like the Morso, but takes a more normal wood length. The Jotul F3CB and F100 also were in this niche, but still missing after 2020.
 

EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
737
SE North Carolina
We have 1000 sq feet of our ranch that we completely opened up with the fireplace right in the center. Costal SE North Carolina. The 3 beds and two baths upstairs are another 1000sq ft. Our 1.7 cu ft F400 is too small for the coldest nights, 25 degrees and lower, and just right to carry 100% of the heating demands most other times but it needs to run 4-5 loads a day when it’s cold. (I don’t burn high btu wood).
So don’t just assume you need/want a small stove. We like stove pizza night.

Check out the pacific energy T4. Its not tax credit eligible but if you are still shopping it’s nice to know all the options you have. 1500$ savings is nice but I could argue that spending that amount to not have any compromises in a system that you will look at every day and use sometimes isn’t that much extra when you think of what you will spend on your home in the next 20 years.

Cheaper but still high quality stoves that don’t qualify for the tax credit can be had and in some cases at a price point that is that. The more expensive stove with the tax credit.

2020 EPA regs and now the tax credit (if you want to take advantage of it). Really have limited choices less tha. 1.75 cu ft. Tax credit drops some next year but not enough for me not to wait to see what’s available in the next 18 months. I would have thought Jotul would have had new models out by now. Really very surprised that they don’t have a largest window stove in the small to med-small size range. Just my thoughts.
Evan
 

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bholler

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Jan 14, 2014
24,217
central pa
That Hampton stove looks nice. Any idea if/when it will be approved
radiant or convection?
Regency just keeps telling us that more Hamptons are on their way but we have no definite timeline
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,862
Downeast Maine
Have you considered the Morso 2b? I have the classic, which has not returned (yet) for 2020 EPA, but the 2b standard is on the tax list and the EPA list. It takes "normal" length firewood at 18", but it will take a bit longer piece if you have a few that are too long. I've gotten an eight hour "burn time" out of my stove, but at the end of those eight hours there are just coals, and I had to use a firebox full of hard maple. This fits our needs, but most people don't want to load a stove four to five times a day in the dead of winter.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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South Puget Sound, WA
If you can find a used Morso 2110 in good shape, that would work.
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,862
Downeast Maine
With a 7" rear clearance on the 2b standard you have a lot of flexibility on where you put it. The side clearances are 26" and there is no specified front clearance, but I would assume at least 26".
 

bholler

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Jan 14, 2014
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I see the numbers for clearance from combustibles, but what clearance do you need if it's non-combustible, say durock and tile?
What is behind the durarock and tile?
 
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bholler

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Jan 14, 2014
24,217
central pa
ok I was hoping the tile and durock made a fireproof barrier.

thanks
It is a fire proof barrier barrier but doesn't stop heat transfer which is the main issue