New stovepipe installation, outside clearance question

[TimberGhost]

I finally pulled out my old Lopi stove insert and am going to place in the room for more heat. I have a big stone fireplace and a stone chimmey. Where to put the stove leaves very few choices as the room is about 15' by 15' and things are crowded already. I have a propane furnace for backup which is connected to another chimmey. Were I want to put it is close to the old fireplace. When I run the stovepipe up thru the roof how far away must I be from the old outside chimmey so that it doesn't create a draft problem? I have a picture so you can see what I'm takling about. Thanks!

 

[fossil]

Am I reading this correctly...that you plan on removing an insert from a fireplace and somehow using the insert as a freestanding heater?? Rick

 

[TimberGhost]

Am I reading this correctly...that you plan on removing an insert from a fireplace and somehow using the insert as a freestanding heater?? Rick

That is correct.

 

[fossil]

Is there documentation from the manufacturer that states the appliance has been tested and certified to be used either way? Are there factory legs or a pedestal available for it? Are there manufacturer's instructions on installing it this way (as a free-stander), including required clearances from combustibles and hearth protection ?

 

[fox9988]

TimberGhost have you considered sliding the insert out onto the hearth? A liner or liner extension, floor protection, and you would be set.

 

[TimberGhost]

TimberGhost have you considered sliding the insert out onto the hearth? A liner or liner extension, floor protection, and you would be set.

That was my first idea, but it isn't going to work . The opening of the fireplace is only 27"high, even using a flexible steel liner it would take too many bends even if I could get the stove half way back in. And the damper also presents a problem, instead of the flu going straight up from it, it's angled back. I had my 72 year neighbor up here has extensive experience in wood stoves says for best results stovepipe must be straight up from the stove for the best function of the stove. I've even considered remodeling the fireplace but I foresee alot of problems.

 

[TimberGhost]

That was my first idea, but it isn't going to work . The opening of the fireplace is only 27"high, even using a flexible steel liner it would take too many bends even if I could get the stove half way back in. And the damper also presents a problem, instead of the flu going straight up from it, it's angled back. I had my 72 year neighbor up here has extensive experience in wood stoves says for best results stovepipe must be straight up from the stove for the best function of the stove. I've even considered remodeling the fireplace but I foresee alot of problems.

Still looking for advice!

 

[EatenByLimestone]

What does the insurance company say about using the insert in this way? Considering you are discussing poking another hole in the roof you could come out even buying a new insert... unless there is something wrong with that chimney...

Matt

 

[begreen]

That is a nice looking home and a very nice looking chimney. Personally, I think adding an adjacent metal chimney would look bad. A better solution might be to extend the hearth and put a freestanding, rear exit stove on the hearth. Or, would it be possible to vent the propane heater directly outside so that the central chimney is freed up? If so, is there a good location for a stove that could tap into this chimney?

 

[TimberGhost]

What does the insurance company say about using the insert in this way? Considering you are discussing poking another hole in the roof you could come out even buying a new insert... unless there is something wrong with that chimney...

The insurance company isn't involved because there is no insurance, not yet anyway. I'm pulling the insert because to me they're almost worthless, most of the heat goes up the chimmey, so i'm surely not looking to buy a new insert. Nothing wrong with the chimney.

 

[TimberGhost]

That is a nice looking home and a very nice looking chimney. Personally, I think adding an adjacent metal chimney would look bad. A better solution might be to extend the hearth and put a freestanding, rear exit stove on the hearth. Or, would it be possible to vent the propane heater directly outside so that the central chimney is freed up? If so, is there a good location for a stove that could tap into this chimney?

Right now I don't have the funds to buy another stove, so I have to work with what I got. There really isn't another spot to move the big propane heater and the back of the cabin has 2 bedrooms built on, so no places there either. One guy that looked at the central chimmey and didn't recommend hooking it up to a wood stove because it wasn't built very well (I didn't build the chimmey). Thanks for the ideas though!

 

[begreen]

I'm pulling the insert because to me they're almost worthless, most of the heat goes up the chimmey, so i'm surely not looking to buy a new insert.

That definitely is not true with a modern insert. And maybe not with yours. Lots of folks here heat whole homes with their inserts. Is the old Lopi in good condition inside?

A buddy of mine was ready to sell a Lopi Endeavor that came with his house. He said it was a lousy heater. I knew better and took a look when I visited them. Turns out the burn tubes were totally shot. We got things back in order and now it's heating great.

Take a picture or two of the inside and outside of your insert. Maybe there is something that can be improved? Does it have a blower? If not, that's part of the problem.