Now looking into inserts

[skamp]

Hi everyone

Well looks like the Clarance's %-P for a free standing stove are not going to happen,which isn't a bad thing.
I'm now on the hunt for the best insert. Hope you guy's can help. As i've mentioned before my house is a 1540 ft ranch. I went and looked at avalon Rainer today ,it meets all the specs. Yippee. Just wondering if you think i should step up to the Olympic or would this be to much stove fore me? Any other insert recommendation's would be welcome also because I just started looking. thanks, Steve

 

[fossil]

First off, skamp, you need to learn to correctly spell Rainier. Seems like I've just been through this. Ah, yes, here it is:

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/18893/

Secondly, bigger is better (you never know when you might decide to add a room or something). My advice is to go for the Olympic, if it fits in your application. You don't have to burn it flat out all the time, but when you need it, you'll be glad you got it (that extra capacity). Rick

 

[Dix]

Seems like I’ve just been through this. Ah, yes, here it is:

Smart Ass

http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/blobs/multi.gif

I told ya.... "reiner" as in horse

 

[RedRanger]

Don`t own one,, but I am a big summit fan. You know the mighty beast that heats. :-/ Oh, yeh, only one with the extended burn technology.

 

[wg_bent]

First off, skamp, you need to learn to correctly spell Rainier. Seems like I've just been through this. Ah, yes, here it is:

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/18893/

Secondly, bigger is better (you never know when you might decide to add a room or something). My advice is to go for the Olympic, if it fits in your application. You don't have to burn it flat out all the time, but when you need it, you'll be glad you got it (that extra capacity). Rick

I'll second this. Go bigger. Having to run a stove full out to get what you need gets good clean burns, but doesn't get you enough heat/long burn for really cold nights.

 

[begreen]

Does the square footage gain include the new porch enclosure? If I remember, this is a well-insulated ranch, 1200 sq ft at the core, correct? If so, a mid-sized stove may work out ok. That would put it in the PE Pacific Insert range. The Rainier is a good stove. I have a friend that has owned one for about 5 years now. It can put out the heat. You might also consider the Jotul C450 Kennebec insert or the Regency i2400.

 

[skamp]

First off, skamp, you need to learn to correctly spell Rainier. Seems like I've just been through this. Ah, yes, here it is:

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/18893/

Secondly, bigger is better (you never know when you might decide to add a room or something). My advice is to go for the Olympic, if it fits in your application. You don't have to burn it flat out all the time, but when you need it, you'll be glad you got it (that extra capacity). Rick

It's funny I had the catalog right in front of me last night when I spelled it too. I think what your saying is good advice Rick,also the firebox is twice the size,which I like. Ilooked into the Rainiers and it seed very amall at 1.3. The Olympic is a monster 500 lbs,but i guess I can control it with smaller fires.

 

[skamp]

First off, skamp, you need to learn to correctly spell Rainier. Seems like I've just been through this. Ah, yes, here it is:

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/18893/

Secondly, bigger is better (you never know when you might decide to add a room or something). My advice is to go for the Olympic, if it fits in your application. You don't have to burn it flat out all the time, but when you need it, you'll be glad you got it (that extra capacity). Rick

I'll second this. Go bigger. Having to run a stove full out to get what you need gets good clean burns, but doesn't get you enough heat/long burn for really cold nights.

Thanks Warren I think thats good advice.

 

[skamp]

Don`t own one,, but I am a big summit fan. You know the mighty beast that heats. :-/ Oh, yeh, only one with the extended burn technology.

Yes I'm wide open for ideas . thanks for yours sonnyinbc.

 

[skamp]

Does the square footage gain include the new porch enclosure? If I remember, this is a well-insulated ranch, 1200 sq ft at the core, correct? If so, a mid-sized stove may work out ok. That would put it in the PE Pacific Insert range. The Rainier is a good stove. I have a friend that has owned one for about 5 years now. It can put out the heat. You might also consider the Jotul C450 Kennebec insert or the Regency i2400.

Hi BeGreen. I was kind of guessing at the square footege before,Got the actual house plans and it turns out it's 1540 sq.ft.
I am basicly in the same spot I was before when I was going to get the Castine but decided to go with the f500. So it looks like I'll go with the bigger Insert also. Going to call the guy today and see if the Olynpic meets the codes.

 

[skamp]

Seems like I’ve just been through this. Ah, yes, here it is:

Smart Ass

http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/blobs/multi.gif

I told ya.... "reiner" as in horse

Believe me I deserve it. Rick is my private spelling touter.

 

[begreen]

In that case, if the porch room addition is going to add 240 sq ft. to the 1540 sq ft, might as well go for the largest insert that will fit. There's a big difference between 1200 sq ft and the final 1780 sq ft. I like the PE Summit design, but there are lots to chose from unless the fireplace opening size is an issue.

 

[begreen]

Believe me I deserve it. Rick is my private spelling touter.

Methinks your tutor loves to tout his tooter. %-P

 

[BrotherBart]

The larger firebox overcomes some of the efficiency loss of the insert also. Beat it into submission with horsepower if you will. And one of the oft overlooked things about a big firebox is that it gives ya a little more "working room" for feeding the stove and configuring the burn.

 

[fossil]

...The Olympic is a monster 500 lbs,but i guess I can control it with smaller fires.

I recommend you not carry it around while you've got a fire going in it. :wow: Rick

 

[fossil]

Rick is my private spelling touter.

Yeah, Eileen...I took over skamp's case from a guy named Clarence who was getting nowhere with him. Now we'll go on to t-u-t-o-r. Rick

 

[skamp]

The larger firebox overcomes some of the efficiency loss of the insert also. Beat it into submission with horsepower if you will. And one of the oft overlooked things about a big firebox is that it gives ya a little more "working room" for feeding the stove and configuring the burn.

Thanks Brother Bart. You mean by configuring the burn,would be how you stack the wood correct?

 

[skamp]

Hi guy's Just remeasured the living room and dinning room again just to make sure. living room is 21'x14'. dinning room 14x11. Both rooms are open to one another ,so it's kinda one big room. Total 448 square feet. The Olympic would be located in the living room. (central to the 1500 ft house) I'm still wondering if I'll cook myself out with the Olympic. I really like it because of the large wood box. I'm going out to another location tomorrow to look at more inserts but your thoughts on this revamped information would be appreciated. Thanks Steve.

 

[gibson]

If you are in SE Conn. Take a ride out to Preston Trading Post, out near the casinos. Good people there who know there stuff and are not out to screw you. They don't sell the Olympic, but that is a nice insert. If you want to make the drive, there is a shop in Barrington RI that sells them. Quality dealer as well.

 

[skamp]

If you are in SE Conn. Take a ride out to Preston Trading Post, out near the casinos. Good people there who know there stuff and are not out to screw you. They don't sell the Olympic, but that is a nice insert. If you want to make the drive, there is a shop in Barrington RI that sells them. Quality dealer as well.

Sorry can't agree with you on this one. Went there and all that seemed impotant to those guy's was to make a sale.

 

[gibson]

Sounds like you are in the same boat as me. I went to all of the stove shops in my area and most of them pissed me off in one way or another. I make my living as a sales rep in a different industry, so I know BS when I smell it. Plus I did my homework, alot of it on this site. In the end, I got what I wanted, at a fair price, at Preston. Granted, at the time I was there they had time to spend with me. Bottom line is, you have done your homework, you know what you want. Go get it. Dont let sales people d!ck around with you. You are the one shelling out the cash! Good luck with your Avalon, it is a nice product.

 

[stoveguy13]

If you are in SE Conn. Take a ride out to Preston Trading Post, out near the casinos. Good people there who know there stuff and are not out to screw you. They don't sell the Olympic, but that is a nice insert. If you want to make the drive, there is a shop in Barrington RI that sells them. Quality dealer as well.

Sorry can't agree with you on this one. Went there and all that seemed impotant to those guy's was to make a sale.

Sorry cant agree with you on that one i spent some where between a half hour to an hour with you on the phone disscusing clearence issue to your mantel for the oslo so i dont think that statement is very fair or true

 

[Jerry_NJ]

Not looking for validation of my choice, but hope you look at Quadrafire. I purchased/installed the 4100-I, next to largest, which is the 5100-I. I also like the looks of the PE Summit, didn't go that way as there wasn't a dealer nearby. I'm also not sure of the price difference, price can sway my decisions, and I was able to get 10% off of list on the Quad, and negotiated a reduction in the bit price for installation of $100 and the liner costs of about $250. Not sure what the Summit deal would do, or even the list price of the Summit. The main savings I got in installation was a change in the liner from HomeSaver UltraPro to DuraFlex. While the UltraPro carries a life-time (transferable) warranty I think the DuraFlex will last longer than I will. My installation took a 35' liner, that's how so much was involved in that piece of the cost.

Both PE and Quad are quality brands from mfgs that will stand behind their product warranties (from what I hear).