Ok, the wife is on board and we have decided on the Buck 91 Insert. Now the flue...

[pkell1572]

Hello all,
I was quoted 2800 for the stove and it will qualify for the 300 tax credit. Great. I have a fireplace with approximately 25 foot masonry chimney clay lined on an outside wall. I was quoted approx 800.00 for insulated stainless steel flue liner and 600.00 to deliver and install the stove including the flue liner. This all sounds reasonable to me however I did look at the manual of the stove and one acceptable method of installing the stove is to not have the flue liner go all the way to the top but just a little way to get past the damper and all that. Would it be a terrible sin to not have the insulated stainless steel liner installed? 1400 dollars is 1400 dollars. The inside of my chimney is in good condition. I plan on burning 2 to three cords of seasoned oak per winter. What would I be giving up forgoing the stainless steel liner?

Thanks,

 

[PLAYS WITH FIRE]

The best way is completely lined for:
Better more controllable draft
Cleaning, no need to pull out stove
No elements from out side on you expensive investment.

Others will chime

 

[weatherguy]

get the whole liner, you only have to do this once, do it right the first time, your stove will run better, cleaning is easier and its safer.
BTW, That's a pretty good price for everything.

 

[oconnor]

If you do the partial liner, you need to pull the whole thing each time you clean the flue, and the draft will be poorer. In Canada that type of install is no longer permitted, I think for good reason.

 

[wenger7446]

That is a good price for everything. Don't cheap out. Also ask what the installer is doing about a block off plate.

 

[pkell1572]

The best way is completely lined for:
Better more controllable draft
Cleaning, no need to pull out stove
No elements from out side on you expensive investment.

Others will chime

Great this is the feedback I need. Ok There are lots of different grades of chimney liners. single wall, insulated, double wall. Anyone have an opinion on the sweet spot for my situation?

 

[weatherguy]

Great this is the feedback I need. Ok There are lots of different grades of chimney liners. single wall, insulated, double wall. Anyone have an opinion on the sweet spot for my situation?

This is where I got mine, great service, you need a stainless steel flex liner

http://www.chimneylinerdepot.com/st...h-Flex-King-Pro-Chimney-Liner-Insert-Kit.html

 

[Adamkyr]

pkell

Just installed a Magnaflex Insulflex SS liner - comes pre-insulated and is great quality. This is the 2nd liner I have installed - last year I put in a typical SS liner with an insulation kit - I much prefer the Magnaflex! Applying the insulation to the standard liner, covering it with the mesh sleeve, and not ripping it was a pain in the @ss!

The manufacturer is actually a member of hearth.com. He was a pleasure to work with and made ordering the correct items absolutely painless. Message me and I will gladly provide his ID.

 

[begreen]

Great this is the feedback I need. Ok There are lots of different grades of chimney liners. single wall, insulated, double wall. Anyone have an opinion on the sweet spot for my situation?

Go with the insulated stainless liner. Your dealer is offering a fair price. I'd go with it unless you feel like self-installing.

 

[Nelson]

I agree with the otherwise, go with the full kit and run that liner all the way to the top.

My wife and I just moved into our home this summer. Masonry chimney with two separate flues. An insert in the lower level and an open fireplace on the main level. We didn't find tihs out until later, but the insert only had a liner going up to just above the smoke shelf, not the entire length. Well, we started burning in the insert about a a month ago. Everything was going great until the day after we had burned one night, we noticed white stinky smoke coming from the chimney (for the insert). Mind you, the insert was completely void of fire and cold. Needless to say, we had soot, leaves, debris, you name it, sitting down on the smoke shelf and in between where the round pipe came in and the relatively square shape of the flue. So, we are now looking to have a liner installed the right way.

At any rate, do it the right way the first time and avoid having to worry about it in the future.

Good luck!

btw, thakns for some of the recommendations on liner kits. I'm seriously considering doing this myself after getting some of the quotes....

 

[pkell1572]

get the whole liner, you only have to do this once, do it right the first time, your stove will run better, cleaning is easier and its safer.
BTW, That's a pretty good price for everything.

I thought so too. They are going to deliver the stove and install it for $550.00 These guys also seem to be very knowledgeable and straight forward. We will have to see how the install goes on Tuesday but so far I can say I highly recommend them. I was poking around online and saw some different stoves. I see some stoves that put out 50,000 btu like this one and they say it heats over 3000 square feet. Other stoves put out 74,000 btu and it only heats 1800 square feet. that seems like a large swing in assumptions. Do you think the Buck 91 can put out big time heat? It is a big stove.

 

[begreen]

If the 91 can't handle the load you are going to need a wood furnace.

 

[pkell1572]

If the 91 can't handle the load you are going to need a wood furnace.

Now that is what I wan to hear! I am excited about my new stove. I have about 2 cords of wood and there is gold weather in the forecast.