Osburn 2400 Install HELP!

[KevinS46]

Hi all!
I've been lurking on this site for quite a bit in the warm months thinking about trying to save some money on oil, and burning some of the future termite hotels on my yard.
I've come to the point to where I've fallen for the Osburn 2400 due to its lower end of the price spectrum and the massive amount of heat it is capable of producing.

So here's my problem,
According to the installer at 16 1/4 inches deep I have 31 inches across, and he says I need 33 1/4 according to the paperwork he had. I spoke to the dealer (who called his supplier) and he says the unit is 31 1/8". I'd prefer not to chip some of my firebrick out (I will if i have to), but I also don't want the faceplate hanging away from the brick in the back. So what do you guys think? Also, at these dimensions, how far out into the room will the unit be sticking? I think i will probably have to add material onto my hearth.

Thanks in advance!!
Especially to all of you frequent posters, without you guys I couldn't have made this decision!

Kevin - Miller Place, NY

Edit: dafattkidd, I hope you're watching, if my memory serves me right we are almost neighbors

 

[webbie]

I would cut a piece of cardboard or plywood to the dimensions of the rear of the Osburn and push it back until it hits - then see how far that is.

Over the years we dealt with dozens of installs similar to this. Chipping brick is usually not the best option. It would be better to mount a small angle or box channel on the panel edges which allowed the faceplate to stick out an inch or two and still look good (the angle returns to the fireplace face) - or, in some cases it is possible to make the panels mount further back on the unit. You have to look and it and determine which is better.

A third choice, which provides additional heat benefits, is to install the unit with no panels. If you don't like the looks of it, you can still install screening or custom-cut some of those radiator cover panels to close the gap.

 

[cygnus]

I would cut a piece of cardboard or plywood to the dimensions of the rear of the Osburn and push it back until it hits - then see how far that is.

Over the years we dealt with dozens of installs similar to this. Chipping brick is usually not the best option. It would be better to mount a small angle or box channel on the panel edges which allowed the faceplate to stick out an inch or two and still look good (the angle returns to the fireplace face) - or, in some cases it is possible to make the panels mount further back on the unit. You have to look and it and determine which is better.

A third choice, which provides additional heat benefits, is to install the unit with no panels. If you don't like the looks of it, you can still install screening or custom-cut some of those radiator cover panels to close the gap.

+1 for all of this.

Also, if your brickwork is anything like mine, the back wall slopes forward as it goes up so the exact height of the top edge of the stove will make a difference. In the end, there is quite a bit of guesswork. Adding to the guess work in my case, I found two sources of documentation for my Osburn 2200 that had dimensions that differed by an inch! It wasn't a problem for me but be on the lookout.

 

[etiger2007]

You can also cut off those eyelets (threaded nuts if you will) that are used for leveling the unit as most of the time they are not needed and they add those to the final measurment. I never needed mine. Just saying

 

[dafattkidd]

Kevin,

We are neighbors. I'm in MP also. Well sound beach but same school district. The jacket measures 29 3/4". The other 1 1/4" are the leveling legs which could be cut off if need be. Feel free to pm me and I can help you with whatever questions you may have.

 

[KevinS46]

Thanks guys...I took the easy way out and ordered the Enviro Kodiak 1700. Not as big of a unit, but from what I've read it will be more than enough for my 1500 sqft house. Still, it's firebox is quite a bit smaller than the Osburn, ho hum On the plus side my little lady likes the look of it better, and lets be honest...that is the most important thing!

Cygnus, I noticed the same thing about the measurements. That's what made me so nervous, owners manual said one thing, brochure said another, a youtube video showing the man measure it right in the video another, and my dealer calling his supplier to have him personally measure it yet another Crazy...believe me, if my dealer had it in stock I would've been down there getting a read on it personally.

Dafattkidd, I spent 6 years in a apartment in Sound Beach. Waterville Dr. to be exact. I grew up on the south shore, but once i moved up here I knew I wouldn't leave. I've got a 10 month old, so maybe our kids will go to school together? Small world

I really can't wait to start working with this insert, I have a lot of wood to burn. 5 trees taken down this summer, one taken out of my house from Hurricane Irene (long story!) last year that is all split, seasoned, and ready to go. All red oak.
Once it's in I'll be sure to post up some install and finished product pictures.
Here is the empty space where an insert wants to be. I am probably going to have to trim back some of the wood since the surround is a little too wide for this space. On the right you can see the door where I can pass firewood through, but I probably wont use it unless i can get the doors sealed better.

Again, thank you all

 

[dafattkidd]

That's going to be plenty of stove for that space. I'm sure you'll love it. Congratulations. Did you go to King of Hearths in Port Jefferson?


Also I have a six month old so sounds like they'll be in the same grade.

 

[KevinS46]

Ha,cool! we aren't sure how the school district does ages, but we have time for that

No, I bought it from The Stove Store in Oakdale. I know it's a distance, but when I went shopping he was the only person that really took the time to explain everything, I never felt like I was speaking to a salesman, just a guy that was helping me find a stove.
Having a little difficulty because he ordered the smaller -which was wrong- surround for the Enviro. When he noticed he said it was no issue and that he would cover the difference in cost. I think I will end up having to trim the wood around my hearth due to it being over 46" wide.

Also, after many reads on the Fiskars x27 I decided to buy it.....one word, WOW.
I do more in 15 minutes with that thing than i did with my maul and wedge, and an old ,like 500lb, triangle shaped splitting axe.
I don't know if I'm allowed to say this here but at Sears Hardware online they have it for $34! and free shipping!!

 

[KevinS46]

Oh, any hint on a good stove thermometer for the Enviro?
He threw in a freebie but admitted it wasn't terribly accurate

 

[mfglickman]

I really can't wait to start working with this insert, I have a lot of wood to burn. 5 trees taken down this summer, one taken out of my house from Hurricane Irene (long story!) last year that is all split, seasoned, and ready to go. All red oak.
Once it's in I'll be sure to post up some install and finished product pictures.
Here is the empty space where an insert wants to be. I am probably going to have to trim back some of the wood since the surround is a little too wide for this space. On the right you can see the door where I can pass firewood through, but I probably wont use it unless i can get the doors sealed better.
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Again, thank you all

Looks like you are going to need a heat shield to protect your mantel? Will you have 24" between the top of the insert and the wood?

Not meaning to be a creep, just thinking of stuff that I didn't realize till my stove was installed last year...then had to run to the sheet metal shop in order to actually use it.

 

[KevinS46]

Not being a creep at all mfg! Thanks for your concern.
The minimum clearance to the 'top facing' is 19 1/2" - I believe I have about 17-18". The minimum clearance to an 8" protruding mantle is 24", and I know i have well over that. These measurements are taken from the top of the insert.
The installer said I "should be ok, just keep an eye on it". Famous last words.
When the stove is in I'll be sure to take hard measurements to everything.
Thanks again - as a 'green' burner (no pun intended) I will take any advice I can get.