BrotherBart said:Well color me confused. Is it a furnace or is it a heat pump?
It's an open loop Geothermal Heat Pump (extracts heat from my well water). Its actually "fairly" economical but we prefer the warmth of the old wood stove.
BrotherBart said:Well color me confused. Is it a furnace or is it a heat pump?
TMonter said:I'll check Elk, but I thought that code only applied to systems that pull combustion air from inside the room. If the stove had an OAK I believe it would meet the code. In either case I certainly would try to locate the stove away from the furnace air intake. I'll have to check my IBC copy at work.
Have you ruled out soapstone for any reason??
I’m Only Interested in Steel Stoves….
No offense to cast iron stove owners/companies/retailers, etc…, but I simply do not want a stove that is put together with refractory cement. I weld, and appreciate the integrity of welded construction. And I’m lazy. My distrust of bolt-together and cemented stoves is probably based in an OCD-neurosis, but…it is what it is. I don’t want to be worrying about air leaks I can’t see, and trying to decide when to re-cement the stove.
Having said that, I must confess that the best-running, most impressive stove I’ve been able to spend time around is my good friend Harry’s Hearthstone Mansfield, up near Canada. (Although, to be fair, I’ve not been around a lot of post-1990/EPA stoves, period. But the Mansfield is a--yes, I know—a cast iron (and soapstone) stove! My goal is to find a steel stove that runs as effortlessly as that stove, and heats as well. My friend Harry puts in 2-3 rounds at night (N-S loading) and gets overnight burns routinely, and has gotten 14 hour-burns which allowed relighting on coals alone.
You’re talking about the differene of two grams like its a monumental failure for the quadrafire. These stoves are fired by humans during these tests, and sometimes the person firing the stove has an effect on the emissions. Sometimes over-stiring the ash bed on the reload sends enough particulate matter up the stack to alter the numbers.
So take those emissions values with a grain of salt.
Emissions are not really a serious criteria for me, as these are all post-1990, EPA-certified stoves. In other words, they’re as good as it gets, and they’re far better than the pre-1990 stoves. And I suspect, just from my own research, that despite the EPA’s insistence on lab-testing for emissions, that there is not enough standardization in mfr.’s listings of performance, capacities, etc…, for one to be too concerned about variations in emissions ratings. So, for anyone trying to help me, who does not have unlimited time, please skip this section, lest I frustrate you needlessly. I’m just curious about a couple of things re: emissions, for those who have the time.[/b]
It’s just that [Quadra-fire's) literature goes on about these four burn zones resulting in “reducing emissions, improving efficiency and increasing the amount of heat transferred to your home” and yet this stove has the highest emissions in the group!???
as you suggest. Rather, as I explained at the beginning of this post we’re in, “And again, my concern here is not about whether or not there’s “four fires”—I’m just trying to figure out if the Quadra-fire company is bull******** us in their literature, which I suspect. ”…talking about the differene of two grams like its a monumental failure for the quadrafire…
Yes quads do give a nice secondary show. I don’t own one, but I’ve had the pleasure of watching one operate at the local hardware store for a while now. Very very attractive hovering flames out of those tubes.
you missed a couple stoves, a VC unit which comes in at less than 1 GPH, and our 30-ncp at 3.5 CF firebox that came in in epa testing at 1.63 GPH
My 5700 works great. Lots of secondary burn and a large window to watch it through! I haven’t had to clean my glass in a month and there’s not a bit of buildup on the glass, even in the corners.