I was thinking of getting a probe for my single wall pipe I use the mag one now and I use it to get things going and keep it it check. Any one have a probe on single wall thoughts from you guys would be really appreciated thx.
Probe for single wall??? Yay or na
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I keep saying I'm going top order one of these but I haven't yet.
A friend bought one for his new stove instillation and has it. He's just waiting for the inspector to give the ok so he can fire it up.
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=292
Even this is not a probe for single wall though.
A friend bought one for his new stove instillation and has it. He's just waiting for the inspector to give the ok so he can fire it up.
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=292
Even this is not a probe for single wall though.
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I looked at those for the alarm I like it. Be green so they won't read the internal temp accurately is that true? I figured the internal was the same
I gave it a try once, the radiant heat makes it read a lot higher than actual readings. Even a magnetic externally is not quite accurate.
Best bet that works for me is the IR temp gun to monitor things.
Best bet that works for me is the IR temp gun to monitor things.
My problem has been me walking away from the stove on a reload and forgetting about the air being open too much.
That and sometimes my wife or my grandson runs the stove when I'm away so the alarm for high temp would be good.
Normally my flue temps are on the low side in cruise mode being it's a cat stove.
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I think a thermistor probe would work ok on single wall. Just be sure that the probe is ok for continuous high temps of at least 900F.
Negatory on a probe for single wall for the reason BG stated. The radiant heat from the single wall with throw the reading way off
Stick with your surface and simply X2 for an approx internal reading.
Stick with your surface and simply X2 for an approx internal reading.
I think we are not being clear on the type of probe. You need to be specific.
I think the OP is referring to the Condar mechanical by-metal probe, like this:
http://www.efireplacestore.com/cpf-...nnelid=FROOG&gclid=CM_stMjY3bsCFUjNOgod5DgAdw
The one Hot coals is referring to (http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=292)
Is a digital thermocouple alarm probe.
The Condar probes are not that accurate on single wall, as Beegreen said.
I have digital probes with alarms on both of my stoves, single wall and double wall.
(I also have a digital stove top monitor /alarm)
I find them very helpful for monitoring how the stove is running.
I think the OP is referring to the Condar mechanical by-metal probe, like this:
http://www.efireplacestore.com/cpf-...nnelid=FROOG&gclid=CM_stMjY3bsCFUjNOgod5DgAdw
The one Hot coals is referring to (http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=292)
Is a digital thermocouple alarm probe.
The Condar probes are not that accurate on single wall, as Beegreen said.
I have digital probes with alarms on both of my stoves, single wall and double wall.
(I also have a digital stove top monitor /alarm)
I find them very helpful for monitoring how the stove is running.
It prevents the flue from overheating if you leave the door open of leave the air open too long.
Thermistor probe? What is that one. Is it different then the condar one?
That's what I'm doing now jags just wanted to get a more accurate reading. How close is the x2
That's what I'm doing now jags just wanted to get a more accurate reading. How close is the x2
Electronic probe like the one mentioned by HotCoals:
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=292
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=292
Yes wes999 that's what I'm going for. What type do I need? The condar is the one I was looking at but if it won't work that's ok. I like the digital idea where did u get a dig stove top at
Where did you get that info from? The site states that it can be used for double wall but I can't see any reason why you can't use it for single wall also. The comment on radiant heat throwing off the temp is plain wrong - unless you can convince me otherwise. How can radiant heat, which is much lower when you are most concerned, affect the probe in the middle of a stove pipe?
I've got the Auberins unit with the probe into a small length of single wall between the stove and a double wall insulated elbow. Works great and the alarm is wonderful. The part that takes the reading is on the end of the probe, so mine is close to the centre of the pipe. As I have posted a few times in other threads, when my stove is in running mode, the probe and the 2 stove top magnet thermometers all read very similar. The huge difference is at start-up from coals. If I put in a bunch of smaller pieces, the temps will reach my alarm of 900 very quickly, within a few minutes. If I leave the alarm, the temps will skyrocket very fast, even though the magnets are still reading 250-300 range.
It's the best $65. I ever spent on safety. It is so easy to get distracted after you load the stove and forget that it is capable of burning your house down.
It does say it's for double wall pipe in the literature.
My mind is made up that I'm switching to double wall this spring and buying that setup.
The double wall can only help with my low flue temps anyways in cruise mode.
Oh I agree with you but everybody seems to say the probes don't work right on single wall..i dunno.
I am going to double wall though..can only help.
Great to hear you really like the setup though!
Read again, it says it is usable for double-wall pipe. I think it would work ok for single wall as well.
Regardless, switching to double-wall is a good plan for your stove.
BTW, off topic (sort of) but I'll be going from a stove with insulated double wall within 6 inches of my stove to a new stove and new install with single wall going up 12' in a different location. The existing unit required insulated all the way due to code at that location. I feel I'm missing a ton of heat off the stove pipe and everyone I speak to says I should get better draft.
I'll get in touch with the Auberins folks after the holidays. When they were developing the product I consulted a bit with them. If I am correct I will suggest that they change the wording for the probe to read for single or double-wall pipe. If not, I will report back here.
Note that the probe page says that if you want less temp influence from the pipe, get the 4" probe.
Two probe length options are offered. One is 2 inch (50 mm) and other s 4 “ (100 mm) long, Longer probe will reduce the temperature influence from the mounting site, provide a more accurate measurement.
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20_3&products_id=291
Note that the probe page says that if you want less temp influence from the pipe, get the 4" probe.
Two probe length options are offered. One is 2 inch (50 mm) and other s 4 “ (100 mm) long, Longer probe will reduce the temperature influence from the mounting site, provide a more accurate measurement.
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20_3&products_id=291
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From the link.
Three types of sensor are provided. One is a washer sensor for single wall pipe. It is to be mounted on the surface of the pipe or stove with a #6 screw. The other is a 4" (100 mm) probe that can be used for double wall pipe.
I just know going to double will be great for me anyways.
I been using single forever because I did not want to give up that extra heat from the pipe. But I don't think it amounts to much with just the 5 or 6 feet I have till it goes to class a anyways.
Three types of sensor are provided. One is a washer sensor for single wall pipe. It is to be mounted on the surface of the pipe or stove with a #6 screw. The other is a 4" (100 mm) probe that can be used for double wall pipe.
I just know going to double will be great for me anyways.
I been using single forever because I did not want to give up that extra heat from the pipe. But I don't think it amounts to much with just the 5 or 6 feet I have till it goes to class a anyways.
The monitor/alarms I have, I built myself with off the shelf components.
( This was before Auberins came out with there version.)
Mine actually does more than just monitor/alarm.
The flue controller automatically closed the air when the temp reaches 875
and the stove top turns on the blower when the stove top reaches 700
The Auberins unit can be ordered with either a probe for flue temp or a surface thermocouple.
By the way it is thermocouple not thermistor. A thermocouple generally has a much higher rating.
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( This was before Auberins came out with there version.)
Mine actually does more than just monitor/alarm.
The flue controller automatically closed the air when the temp reaches 875
and the stove top turns on the blower when the stove top reaches 700
The Auberins unit can be ordered with either a probe for flue temp or a surface thermocouple.
By the way it is thermocouple not thermistor. A thermocouple generally has a much higher rating.
Yea, then I deleted it so everybody did not have to read it twice,,,then I saw you quote me,,,,I am just too slow!
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