Replacing fireplace stove.

[2broke2ride]

Hi guys, been about a year since I was here last. The time has come that we need to replace the Efel harmony in the fireplace. We are still notdecided if we want to go with an insert or another hearth stove, but we are leani g toward a hearth sstove. We are on a tight budget, about $1000 give or tzke, so that is a limiting factor. We are also limited because a stove would need to be rear exit with the top of the pipe no more than 26 inches which is the height of the lintel. I am having trouble finding budget stoves that meet my height requirement and ive found most dont even give that information. Im not against used buti needsome ideas of what to look for.
Also, capacity isnt really a big concern as it onlyheats the living room and one adjacent bedroom and evdn then, only in really cold weather.


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[2broke2ride]

Pic of setup

 

[begreen]

Keep an eye out for a used Jotul F3CB.

PS: Is there a hearth extension protecting the floor?

 

[Woody Stover]

The budget stoves are mostly top-vent only. But that's not much lintel height either, so you may be in insert territory. On stove makers' websites, they should have a "specs" section or diagrams with the rear-exit centerline listed on the page for a particular stove. I would prefer a hearth stove as well. I have 28.75" to work with, and freestanding stoves that will fit are pretty scarce. You might be able to top-vent, then go into the chimney several feet above that..but it would detract from the great look you have there now.

 

[Woody Stover]

Keep an eye out for a used Jotul F3CB

Good call, would squeeze under that lintel and provide enough heat for a couple rooms.

 

[2broke2ride]

Keep an eye out for a used Jotul F3CB.

PS: Is there a hearth extension protecting the floor?

Yes, there is an 18" hearth extension. I dont use the front load door anyway, and the install was permitted and inspected a couple years ago.

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[2broke2ride]

What is a jotul fireplace stove 3 ? Would that fit in there? I wish people would give better info in their adds.

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[begreen]

Maybe the same stove or it may be its predecessor. Got pic?

 

[2broke2ride]

I see three of these for sale local. This one and two white ones. All advertised as “jotul number 3”

 

[2broke2ride]

Are these stoves convertible for top or rear vent? I am seeing them for sale both ways....

 

[2broke2ride]

Like this one, can it be converted to rear flue?

 

[2broke2ride]

Also, this fireplace is one of those metal firebox types sitting inside masonry with a masonry chimney and 13x13 clay liner( with a 6" stainless liner inside that) can an inset be put in this fireplace at all?

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[2broke2ride]

Like this

 

[2broke2ride]

Bump for the evening crowd.

 

[theTroutlaw]

Hey 2broke2ride, if you don't mind me asking, are you replacing the stove because it is cracked/leaking? I have the same stove I believe, an Efel Arden Harmony Coal/Wood. I think it puts out 45K BTU's. I'm looking to upgrade to a bigger stove but can't find any exact detail on this one.

 

[begreen]

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Like this one, can it be converted to rear flue?

This is the modern version and what I would recommend. The others are pre EPA.

Are these stoves convertible for top or rear vent? I am seeing them for sale both ways....

Yes

 

[2broke2ride]

Hey 2broke2ride, if you don't mind me asking, are you replacing the stove because it is cracked/leaking? I have the same stove I believe, an Efel Arden Harmony Coal/Wood. I think it puts out 45K BTU's. I'm looking to upgrade to a bigger stove but can't find any exact detail on this one.

The fireback is cracked, it needs to be taken apart and all the seems resealed, and it has never had glass in it since I’ve owned it. ( has 1/4” steel plate)

 

[2broke2ride]

Thanks begreen, what are your thoughts on putting an insert in this fireplace? Is it allowed/safe?
It’s not really considered a pre-fab is it?

 

[begreen]

An insert is fine and may allow a larger firebox depending on what fits there. There are some new inserts in this price range.

 

[2broke2ride]

So even given the metal “heatilator” firebox an insert is fine? That is good news and gives us more options to think about still.

 

[Woody Stover]

thoughts on putting an insert in this fireplace?

I'd be all over that barely-used F3CB, nice looking rig. Of course you'll have to look at it to make sure it is a cherry as they claim. You may even be able to talk 'em down a bit on the price. A freestander will heat when the power is out, better than an insert which will need the blower to get good heat output. Plus, I'd rather avoid blower noise if it was me.

 

[2broke2ride]

I would love to jump on it now, unfortunately the funds will not be available until after tax season so that one will probably be gone.