Researching A blazeking please help

[ecocavalier02]

Well i have been contemplating about getting a new stove. I have the post with the dutchwest 2479 worst stove. and having a lot of issues as it seems im not the only one out there as well having problems. So im really in the look at the blaze king princess cat stove. I really want want to make sure that my setup would be ok for this stove before i went out and spent the big bucks on it. My setup is a little over 25 foot chimney stainless steel lined 6inch liner. mostly internal to the house. Runs from my basement up through the garage then through the attic. WOndering if the liner would have to be insulate and also i would have to do the 2 45 elbows to go into the chimney then to a T. and wondering if that would be a problem. I would not be able to have the 36 inches of rise as well before the 45s. probably more like 20 to 24 inches. Well thats my setup and any help would be great. Wont be purchasing until next year so im really taking some time to get a lot of info on this

 

[Todd]

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I think that 36" rise requirement is for the bigger King model with the 8" pipe? The Princes is less draft sensitive but the straighter the better. As far as the insulated liner goes, it probably best to just get it done if you have the room since most clay tile chimneys are in poor shape anyways. You could also consider the poured insulation or dump vermerculite down.

 

[ecocavalier02]

Ok cool. So you dont think ther should be any problems i will be using mostly oak and beach ash seasoned for two years dont see any problems there?

 

[Patapsco Mike]

If the draft is good in your Dutchwest, it will probably be good in the BK too. I think with a 25' interior run you are in good shape.

 

[learnin to burn]

You should be fine with that setup, and yes the 36 inches is really more for the King. With 25 ft you should have plenty of draft.

 

[ecocavalier02]

Im also just making sure. My hluse is about 1500 square feet the princes should be plenty. And theonly problem i see rite is that just got done cutting and i bucked all the logs at 20 inches and i see 16 is the max log length if im to cut the remaining four inches off that donna really suck but oh weell. It will still be better than the dutchwest Neverburn

 

[Todd]

Im also just making sure. My hluse is about 1500 square feet the princes should be plenty. And theonly problem i see rite is that just got done cutting and i bucked all the logs at 20 inches and i see 16 is the max log length if im to cut the remaining four inches off that donna really suck but oh weell. It will still be better than the dutchwest Neverburn

You can squeeze those 20" splits in if you load E/W but they won't fit straight in.

 

[ecocavalier02]

oh ok. i thought it was like a must to load the n/s so loading east west is ok?

 

[Todd]

Either way works fine, side to side or E/W usually gives a longer burn.

 

[Lanningjw]

18" is best, I think for the E/W load with the princess. I just load it up any old way and it kicks ass with a lot of heat.

 

[ecocavalier02]

im also wondering my stove pipe enters through a existing whole in the chimney above an opening for a fireplace. i have it blocked off off with insulation and a piece of sheetmetal and i remove it when i clean the chimney. Not having a block off plate wont be any kind of an issue? i just really want to make sure my setup is ok, and like i said my chimney is mostly internal even where it passes through the garage its always at least in the 40's. snow always melts off. just wondering of some things i should do before installing the beast!

 

[ecocavalier02]

anybody

 

[learnin to burn]

I still think you are fine.

Quote - "i have it blocked off off with insulation and a piece of sheetmetal and i remove it when i clean the chimney." I think this will be fine as well. My thought on the block off plate is if you removed it you would loose some heat up the chimney .

 

[dolphins1lrb]

Hi I too am looking into purchasing a Blaze King king model. My house is 2500sqft. I have an existing wood stove that uses 6" pipe and is internal so I can't change the size of piping without tearing 3 floors apart to put in 8" pipe. Does anyone know if you can start out with 8" and reduce to 6" and still get the right draft? My piping is approx 24' in length. I really think the Blaze King king model is the only stove that will consistantly heat my house and give me a long burn time. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[Highbeam]

With three floors you will have a very long internal (this is good) chimney that will likely draft much better than the minimum flue required for the king. However, you won't get approval of the smaller 6" flue from BK or your building inspector. 2500 SF of multiple floors means that each floor is pretty small, you would likely be well served by the princess.

 

[learnin to burn]

I agree with Highbeam on thinking the princes would do you well.

 

[SolarAndWood]

Hi I too am looking into purchasing a Blaze King king model. My house is 2500sqft. I have an existing wood stove that uses 6" pipe and is internal so I can't change the size of piping without tearing 3 floors apart to put in 8" pipe. Does anyone know if you can start out with 8" and reduce to 6" and still get the right draft? My piping is approx 24' in length. I really think the Blaze King king model is the only stove that will consistantly heat my house and give me a long burn time. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

It depends on the site, the house and your definition of long burn time. I get 12 hour burns out of the king when it is cold and blowing heating 2000 sq ft of effectively rambling ranch while barely keeping the additonal 1000 sq ft of lower walkout level from freezing. This is with the stove in the middle of the main floor. Windy ridge and lots of glass.

 

[dolphins1lrb]

With three floors you will have a very long internal (this is good) chimney that will likely draft much better than the minimum flue required for the king. However, you won't get approval of the smaller 6" flue from BK or your building inspector. 2500 SF of multiple floors means that each floor is pretty small, you would likely be well served by the princess.

I only heat 2 floors and that is what totals 2500sqft. Will the princess be able to give me enough heat and will it have a long burn time like the king?

 

[Chopslide]

I think the king would be a better idea for 2500 sf. I am running a princess in a 2000 sf leaky and I mean LEAKY! log home it keeps the downstairs toasty (1000sf) and will warm the upstairs until the temps get below 0 then it gets a little chilly upstairs

 

[regalflyer]

How important are the optional fans for the Princess Ultra with the shields? I am looking at purchasing this model, but wonder about good convection without the fans?

 

[SolarAndWood]

Paul, the fans make a big difference in heat output. I use the fans on my Ultra when it is colder/windy. They also do a nice job of moving the heat away from the stove making the area around the stove comfortable even at the higher burn rate.

 

[ecocavalier02]

They really do mAke a big diference. I wouldnt even think twice bout not gettin fans

 

[Chopslide]

+3 on the fans they work great... a little noisy in my situation... stove in the middle of the room but the added flexibility more than makes up for the noise

 

[regalflyer]

Thanks for the info on the fans. Does anyone have a pedestal model with the ash pan? Is it effective, or useless? I have found the ash pan to be completely useless on my Heritage, and a very dirty proposition in terms of frequent ash clean out with a shovel and bucket :-(

 

[North of 60]

I have ash pans on two of my last stoves. Both are large BUT I have never used them. I would rather keep my ash plug in place and SEALED. I only have to clean out the ash on my newer stove, Year 4 going on yr5 about once a month max. Three or 4 scoops into a metal bucket and I am done. Out to the snow pile in the garden it goes and will till it in in the spring. I will have hot ashes and a few coals left to restart. The stove runs continuous for 7-8 month's without a relight. From then on a fire will be re-lit every second evening into the spring or as fall arrives.