Snow on roof

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nmaho

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I am scheduled to have insert installed Wednesday . Imam wondering if chimney sweep will show up with another 6 inches of snow on roof we received today? I am guessing if they worried about snow they would not work all winter.
 
When I had my stove and chimney installed we had 6 inches on the roof. Knowing it wouldn't happen I shoveled it off and washed it off with warm water. I called them and let them know it was cleaned off.
 
Probably would be good to get the snow off if they are going to be working right in the snowy part.
I sweep it down and let it go over the edge. Very dangerous if ice is under the snow of course, Be Careful.
Your thread might get moved to another hearth stratosphere.:)
 
Do you have a STEEP roof (pitch)?
 
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Call them and let them know what the situation is.
I can walk a steep roof with a lot of wet snow on it, scrape it down to anything less than dry shingles and it's a high speed slide.
They MAY want you to leave as is and they'll move what they need to.
Worth a call.
 
I'm sure they know what they are in for, you just want to get it done assasplease.....
 
Not sure what part of Mass you're in but you probably have a couple of feet on the roof. Unless this guy's from mars he must know you have snow and would have called. I've been on my roof when I had 3 feet and it wasn't that hard to get around.
 
Warm water freezes faster than cold water. The steam allows heat to escape faster so hot water on a cold roof turns into a not so fun work place. A little snow however and a drop cloth no problem.
 
I think it was warm water, but might have been cold. It was above freezing and this got rid of the trace of snow after shoveling it. The trace was real slick. The roof was dry and ice free when they got up there. The roof is 5/12 pitch, which is fine to walk on when dry. Sorry I didn't explain how dangerous this can be without understanding how to do it. You start sliding your not stopping to you hit the ground!! I am used to doing things like this. I had a rope over the peak tied off to a tree and tied off to me. No way could I side off the roof. Don't even think of getting up there with out being tied off.
 
I'm a carpenter by trade I live in mass on the shore and yes I've seen people use "warm/hot" water to clean off stairs and cars in the winter. Yes I have seen it and yes people do it. Above freezing is a different story. If there's snow on the roof most would figure it's freezing like I did. Glad we cleared that up. Might have saved a life. I've slid down 2 roofs swinging my hammer the whole way. Nothin stops you but the ground
 
I fell off my roof one time but there was over 3 feet of snow on the ground so I didn't get hurt, my life flashed before my eyes on the way down though.
 
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We did a liner Monday and one today we just set up ridge ladders on top of the snow. Those two were simple ones but more complicated ones we will set up a platform on the roof to work off of. Most good sweeps know how to work around the snow and if it is shingle i would prefer the snow is left on it metal is a whole different story.
 
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I just shoveled 1-2 feet of snow off a 3000 Sq ft commercial bldg. Worried that the coming rain might make it too heavy.I Feel like i was run over by a truck.
 
Warm water freezes faster than cold water. The steam allows heat to escape faster so hot water on a cold roof turns into a not so fun work place. A little snow however and a drop cloth no problem.

What happens when the warm water cools down and is then the same temp that the cold water was?
 
What happens when the warm water cools down and is then the same temp that the cold water was?
Id say it takes longer. Put a container of boiling water outside at 20 degrees and one with 33 degree water and see which one freezes faster.
 
This is really where the internet is being misused, improperly used, abused, I don't know, but it's not the way to go here.

Why take the time to put up a post, read a bunch of replies from people who are not the ones doing the work when you could pick up the phone and actually talk to the installer and make sure it's how they want it to be??!?!?

Are people becoming that shy of human interaction that this is better than calling the guy that's coming to the house to do the work?

Just my .02 worth, think about it...
 
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What happens when the warm water cools down and is then the same temp that the cold water was?
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Id say it takes longer. Put a container of boiling water outside at 20 degrees and one with 33 degree water and see which one freezes faster.

I take it you guys aren't familiar with the Mpemba paradox?
 
Right, but really under laboratory conditions....which most of us aren't privy to on our roofs or in our kitchens. It basically boils down to (pun intended) a high surface area to volume ratio. Spray a hot water as a mist and it will freeze faster, there are plenty of youtube videos of people throwing water in the air and a good deal of it freezing. The hot water droplets evaporate a substantial amount of its volume quickly and although it started out warmer it will freeze quicker because there is less of it to freeze.

A very large pan with a thin layer of water would probably do the same thing. But in normal circumstances, cold water freezes first. Hot water always has to get cold first, then it freezes...thus taking more time.
 
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