Someone has broken in! Things aren't the way I left them! (New forum layout)

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maple1

Minister of Fire
Sep 15, 2011
10,465
Nova Scotia
What happened to the style choices? I'm back at the 'new' one - which works like crap on my XP machine. I'm not likely the only one still using XP. I hope this is temporary...
 

jharkin

Minister of Fire
Oct 21, 2009
3,887
Holliston, MA USA
With the new format I find that on my Android tablet it forces me into the mobile view even if I have the "show desktop site" option enabled in Chrome. Is there something set server side overriding this preference?

With a big tablet I prefer the regular view to the phone optimized mobile look.
 

webfish

Hearth.com LLC
Staff member
Oct 18, 2013
1,514
Minnesota
With the new format I find that on my Android tablet it forces me into the mobile view even if I have the "show desktop site" option enabled in Chrome. Is there something set server side overriding this preference?

With a big tablet I prefer the regular view to the phone optimized mobile look.
I will check.
 

jharkin

Minister of Fire
Oct 21, 2009
3,887
Holliston, MA USA
Thanks fish!


Another thought on navigation. I think this was an issue on the old site as well. When you go to the top of the forum list at first the navigation breadcrumb looks like:

[home icon] > Forums

Then if you go to a sub forum, say the inglenook, you will get this navigation breadcrumb:

[home icon] > Non-Hearth Forums > The Inglenook

What happens its showing the category in place of the top level forum link. Now if you want to go back to the full forum list you have to click home and then navigate back down to the forums. It would help the navigation to have the breadcrumbs render the full path like so:

[home icon] >Forums > {category} > {forum name}


Sorry to nitpick, software quality is my profession ;)
 
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webfish

Hearth.com LLC
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Oct 18, 2013
1,514
Minnesota
What happened to the style choices? I'm back at the 'new' one - which works like crap on my XP machine. I'm not likely the only one still using XP. I hope this is temporary...
Was renaming it to Old Hearth. You can change by going into your profile page and change preferences. There may be some functionality issues on the old style.
 

maple1

Minister of Fire
Sep 15, 2011
10,465
Nova Scotia
I'm not sure why but I was having lots of functionality issues with the new style on this XP machine. I got errors when clicking on the little notice bell thing, and the notification button. Didn't see a forum jump bar, and there was a couple of pages at the top of menu item type stuff that I had to scroll past every time to get to the actual forum page. And the pages loaded a lot slower.

But as long as I can view old style I'm good - so far. I suspect there are lots of bugs to work out yet anyway - maybe I'll try the new style again after some time goes by. Good luck.
 

webfish

Hearth.com LLC
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Oct 18, 2013
1,514
Minnesota
I'm not sure why but I was having lots of functionality issues with the new style on this XP machine. I got errors when clicking on the little notice bell thing, and the notification button. Didn't see a forum jump bar, and there was a couple of pages at the top of menu item type stuff that I had to scroll past every time to get to the actual forum page. And the pages loaded a lot slower.

But as long as I can view old style I'm good - so far. I suspect there are lots of bugs to work out yet anyway - maybe I'll try the new style again after some time goes by. Good luck.
Are you on IE8? Any specifics and screen shots would be helpful. It was tested on XP IE 8. If issues were Before Sunday , then please try again.
 

pen

There are some who call me...mod.
Staff member
Aug 2, 2007
7,953
N.E. Penna
I have to chuckle, as I remember how much some folks hated the "old style" when it came out as new,,,, and now it is coveted :)

In all, I'm going to stick with whatever the new style is as doing so and providing constructive criticism will be part of making the next version of what this place will be. Even though we can choose the old style for now, I do not believe that option will remain available forever.

pen
 

webfish

Hearth.com LLC
Staff member
Oct 18, 2013
1,514
Minnesota
With the new format I find that on my Android tablet it forces me into the mobile view even if I have the "show desktop site" option enabled in Chrome. Is there something set server side overriding this preference?

With a big tablet I prefer the regular view to the phone optimized mobile look.
Here is answer on responsive design. The show as desktop setting doesn't work for responsive sites. That feature is if you have a mobile site separate to your desktop site, which most sites do not have. Why chrome has that in boggles many people, you can read about it here:

http://www.webmonkey.com/2013/01/turning-off-responsive-design/
 

Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
12,160
Southern IN
I see that the 'path' is now at the top of the page. I found one at the bottom useful; When I got to the end of a thread, I could just hit the forum name and get a refreshed topic page. As it is, I have to either go back to the top of the page to get to the path, or right-click, hit 'back,' then reload the page.
Now I can use the up arrows that pop up in the lower right of the screen to get back to the top, then click the forum name in the path to get a refreshed topic page. A path at the bottom of the page, in addition to the one at the top, would be nice, but this isn't too bad...
 

Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
12,160
Southern IN
Now if you want to go back to the full forum list you have to click home and then navigate back down to the forums.
I've just been clicking the 'forums' button at the top of the page.
 

Corey

Minister of Fire
Nov 19, 2005
2,466
Midwest
Anyway to get more white space and even less definition between posts? [sarcasm] But this is one of the 'features' I really dislike with the new 'flat' style. Here is an (admittedly extreme) case, but they are all over the place...an entire full screen view with literally two lines of content and I'll bet it takes a few seconds just to figure out how many posts you're actually looking at.
 

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webfish

Hearth.com LLC
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Oct 18, 2013
1,514
Minnesota
Same post with the new default theme.

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Corey

Minister of Fire
Nov 19, 2005
2,466
Midwest
Thanks for the tip. That does solve the 'post definition' issue...but then you get wonky colors, goofy round photos and still only a couple lines of 'substance' on every page in some cases. Plus, then I have the eerie feeling I've killed and buried a friend I've known for the past...oh...10-ish years or so.
 
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