Stovepipe Part Identification

[BlairWitch]

Howdy everyone!

I'm hoping someone here can help me identify a component of my stovepipe/thimble setup which I damaged while doing some spring cleaning. It appears to be an adapter from the slip section of my stove-pipe to the thimble in my roof, allowing the stove pipe to rotate away from the stove for removal. I've looked online but am not really sure what this thing is called so i'm not having much luck.

The stove is a mid 2000s Vermont Castings Defiant Model 1610 (non-cat).

Thank you!

 

[fire245]

Looks like a single wall to class a adapter

 

[webby3650]

Do you know what make your chimney is? That is the single wall adaptor, find out the brand so you can order a new one. A pic of the chimney itself might be enough for someone to identify it.

 

[BlairWitch]

Thanks for the info thus far. This is the only picture I have at the moment, I'll get. A better one in the morning. Not sure what make it is, but it's the same color enamel as the stove so I'm thinking it may be VC, if that's even possible.

 

[webby3650]

The enamel pipe is from VC, I was referring to the chimney. Was it installed at the same time as the stove?

 

[Oldman47]

FYI a definition is in order. Otherwise you will using terms that confuse people.
No part of a chimney is visible inside the room. A chimney starts at the ceiling support piece and goes up from there. The part you can see in your tall picture is a stove pipe or sometimes called a connector pipe. It goes from the stove top to the chimney connection.

 

[webby3650]

FYI a definition is in order. Otherwise you will using terms that confuse people.
No part of a chimney is visible inside the room. A chimney starts at the ceiling support piece and goes up from there. The part you can see in your tall picture is a stove pipe or sometimes called a connector pipe. It goes from the stove top to the chimney connection.

Not necessarily, a few chimney systems allow the class A pipe to protrude into the living space when using a cathedral ceiling support boxes. If a roof support was used then the class A chimney will be visible in the room for sure.

 

[BlairWitch]

Thank you for the terminology clarification, I'm still pretty new to wood burning.

Below are images of the stove pipe and chimey. Hopefully these will identification.

Thank you again for your help!

 

[webby3650]

I think that is security chimney. Here is the adaptor.
(broken link removed to http://www.woodstovepro.com/store/Security-Chimneys-6-Secure-Temp-ASHT-Flue-Extension-6UP-p29177.html)

 

[fire245]

I think that is security chimney. Here is the adaptor.
(broken link removed to http://www.woodstovepro.com/store/Security-Chimneys-6-Secure-Temp-ASHT-Flue-Extension-6UP-p29177.html)

I Agree, it's ICC brand. Just looked at one in the shop.

 

[webby3650]

ICC and Security are 2 different companies aren't they?

 

[fire245]

Sorry long day, you are correct. Icc is excel. Parts look the same.

 

[BlairWitch]

You got it, that is the right one!

Thank you again for all of your help!

 

[jtp10181]

No one is going to say anything about the apparent clearance violation where the class a comes through the ceiling and has drywall right against it? Unless that is plaster over cement board?

Single wall pipe looks to be way too close to the wall also, again, unless it is all non combustible even behind the stone.

 

[webby3650]

It too hard to tell how far from the wall it is. That's a round cathedral ceiling support that's entering the room from what I can tell.

 

[jtp10181]

Yeah might be a round support, I forgot those existed. We always used the square ones.

 

[BlairWitch]

It is indeed a round thimble (is that the right term?). I was also told by a local chimney/stove service company that the set-up is not to code. The stove pipe is ~10" from the stone wall, i don't know for certain what is behind the stone but i'm going to assume its a standard wall. When I bought the house 2 years ago I knew nothing about stoves and did not realize it was not installed to code (I could smack my home inspector for not catching it).

That being said, I have never seen the rocks directly behind the stove or stove pipe get above 130F (via a infrared temp gun), even with the stove roaring along at 600+ griddle temps. Additionally the ceiling adjacent to the thimble has never gotten above 100F while running the stove. It may not be to code, but i'm not terrible concerned about it at the moment.

I am planning on replacing the Defiant with a Jotul F50 next season at which time I will have a new 6" double-wall stove pipe installed to be on the safe (and code adhering side).

Thank you again for your help!

 

[jtp10181]

Yeah the codes are meant to prevent fire at worst case situation which is I think a 2100 F chimney fire at 5 minutes. Also over time with clearance violations nearby combustibles can slowly undergo pyrolysis and eventually the ignition temperature will become lower to the point that it can be dangerous at previously safe temperatures. Operating under normal safe parameters you might be ok for years or indefinitely, but if someone has a chimney fire you could be building a new house. Not trying to scare you, just properly inform.

A quick fix if the connector pipe is the only issue would be to replace it with double wall, most will be safe at a 6" CTC

 

[BlairWitch]

I'm hoping I won't have to run again at all. If all goes well I'll sell the VC and replace it before the fall.

If I don't end up getting a stove this year I'll look into a double wall pipe just to be safe.

Thanks again!