The Caddy Advanced is finally on PSG's site...

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Burning Hunk
Nov 25, 2017
135
Western, MA
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Burning Hunk
Nov 25, 2017
135
Western, MA
I'm not sure what features the Caddy has that the HC doesn't. Maybe @SBI_Nick can shed some light?
 

sloeffle

Minister of Fire
Mar 1, 2012
833
Central Ohio
I'm confused as to why anyone would purchase a Caddy Advanced for $4500 when you could buy the Heat Commander for $2800. Both furnaces have the exact same specs.
I thought the same thing, by the time you add an ECM blower you are pushing 6k with tax. For that kind of money I'd get a Kuuma.
 

andym

Feeling the Heat
Feb 6, 2020
424
Hicksville, Ohio
The difference in price is no greater than it used to be. I was quoted 4-5k for a Caddy a year ago, but purchased my HMX2 for 1,899. But yeah, I can't explain it.
 

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Burning Hunk
Nov 25, 2017
135
Western, MA
I know they are marketed differently with the Caddy line geared more toward professional HVAC installs and the Drolet for DYI installs. However, other than the plenum differences, I haven't read what makes one better than the other for each type of install...
 

brenndatomu

Minister of Fire
Aug 21, 2013
6,276
NE Ohio
Do they have a better warranty? Other than the (eventual) option for a dual fuel Caddy, I'm also baffled on what you get for the extra money...other than the obvious dealer markup, and then they can install it for you too (for more $)...which some people need, not everybody can do their own installs, and it can be hard in some markets to get anyone to install/service something they didn't sell new...
 

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Burning Hunk
Nov 25, 2017
135
Western, MA
Perhaps there are structural differences that aren't reflected in the specs? Did the previous Caddy suffer the firebox cracking issues that its sister product did? I'm just spitballing but specs don't always tell the complete story. I hope Nick pops in tomorrow and gives some insight.
 

brenndatomu

Minister of Fire
Aug 21, 2013
6,276
NE Ohio
Did the previous Caddy suffer the firebox cracking issues that its sister product did?
No...but they were made differently at the front, where the Caddy and HC look to be about the same now...the previous generation Caddy had the front of the firebox blower cooled, where the Tundra was just bare on the front (air cooled, but not by airflow from the blower)
 

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Burning Hunk
Nov 25, 2017
135
Western, MA
Again, looks can be deceiving. I'm betting there's more to the difference than the nameplate... but I've been wrong before and will be again... just watch... LOL
 

andym

Feeling the Heat
Feb 6, 2020
424
Hicksville, Ohio
Again, looks can be deceiving. I'm betting there's more to the difference than the nameplate... but I've been wrong before and will be again... just watch... LOL
There were indeed some differences before. Things like dhw option on the Max caddy, touchscreen control thingy, etc. But real world performance was little difference. I'm just glad they still make the cheaper diy version!
 
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Burning Hunk
Nov 25, 2017
135
Western, MA
On the other hand, I wish they still made a "Max" version as none of what SBI makes now produces enough heat for my home...
 

SBI_Nick

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Oct 15, 2020
12
Quebec city, Canada
Hi,
sorry for the late answer, i didn't spend as much time watching the blog lately.

As I previously mention they are pretty similar performance wise. Better waranty, cleaner look, HVAC oriented, ECM blower available. And here in Canada it is certified to be install in serial Add-on.

thanks,
 
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laynes69

Minister of Fire
Oct 2, 2006
2,596
Ashland OH
As of 2019 all furnaces (central furnaces) are required to contain an ecm motor. Is this not required for woodfurnaces?
 

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Burning Hunk
Nov 25, 2017
135
Western, MA
Any update of the details of the CR yet Nick?