To me it looks like the the Most DANGEROUS log splitter ever designed, See movie!
http://www.thestickler.com/
http://www.thestickler.com/
Guys vying for Darwin Awards. In the video, the guy has an axle stand. In reality most guys put a block of wood under the axle. The last thing you want is for the axle to be hanging on the spring and moving up and down. The Stickler also works much better with longer wood and with a steel plate on the ground.smokinj said:I rember them in the late 70's the truck falling off the jack was common
jimmy55 said:Hello everyone ,
I'm new to the forum and realize this is an old topic but I have burned wood for over 25 years and used the stickler for about 5 years..All these comments on how dangerous this tool is and how it gets tangled in wood is coming from people who have never used this tool. I split about 15 cord a year with the stickler and have had no such trouble.The problem these days are so many cry babies running to there lawyers office when they get hurt because they don't know how to use a tool designed for a specific job! The stickler is safe efficient and can out split most $1000 hydraulic units out there!
NoPaint said:jimmy55 said:Hello everyone ,
I'm new to the forum and realize this is an old topic but I have burned wood for over 25 years and used the stickler for about 5 years..All these comments on how dangerous this tool is and how it gets tangled in wood is coming from people who have never used this tool. I split about 15 cord a year with the stickler and have had no such trouble.The problem these days are so many cry babies running to there lawyers office when they get hurt because they don't know how to use a tool designed for a specific job! The stickler is safe efficient and can out split most $1000 hydraulic units out there!
Hello, what position at this company do you hold?
jimmy55 said:Hello everyone ,
I'm new to the forum and realize this is an old topic but I have burned wood for over 25 years and used the stickler for about 5 years..All these comments on how dangerous this tool is and how it gets tangled in wood is coming from people who have never used this tool. I split about 15 cord a year with the stickler and have had no such trouble.The problem these days are so many cry babies running to there lawyers office when they get hurt because they don't know how to use a tool designed for a specific job! The stickler is safe efficient and can out split most $1000 hydraulic units out there!
Highbeam said:Yes it is fast. I can't think of a more dangerous tool.
Highbeam said:I own one, use one, and still think it is a ridiculously dangerous tool. I respect your, and my, right to own one and hope to always have that right.
Yes it is fast. I can't think of a more dangerous tool.
Well, you're off to a good start here...jimmy55 said:If you have never used one your comments are a waste of my time!
jimmy55 said:Highbeam said:I own one, use one, and still think it is a ridiculously dangerous tool. I respect your, and my, right to own one and hope to always have that right.
Yes it is fast. I can't think of a more dangerous tool.
If its so dangerous why do you continue to use it? Which mounting plate do you use? I also have an adapter and use mine on my post auger hooked to my IH TRACTOR. I can pick up a 20ft section in seconds and lift it up and cut my desired lengths falling in splits as i cut. After over 100 cords of wood split with this tool i cant understand why you think its so dangerous.Whatever torque that the stickler may place on the log while splitting is directed to the ground.Much safer than a hydraulic system in my opinion
KarlP said:Highbeam said:Yes it is fast. I can't think of a more dangerous tool.
You're not trying hard enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bVAAx3mMKY.
karri0n said:Definitely not safer than a hydraulic system. I think those big wheel types with the wedge on them are about on par with the screw type. Better hope that weld holds.
ANYTHING in motion while your hands/body parts are near is more dangerous than something not in motion when body parts are near. Hydraulic press type splitter is not in motion when loading the wood to be split. Something spinning that can screw into you, or get a shirt wrapped around it then takr your arm for a ride, is going to be more dangerous. The big wheel with a wedge, the wedge will fly off and seriously injure someone.
All power equipment is dangerous if used improperly, and considerably less dangerous when used with safety in mind
karri0n said:Safety aside, I'm not really certain where the "most efficient" thing comes in. Running a V8 motor to split firewood? Not likely "the most efficient" solution. Now if someone built a setup similar to a hydraulic splitter with an electric or gas powered lathe running the screw, and a manually operated lever with a ram that pushes the log into the screw, the safety and efficiency could probably be vastly improved.
I'm sure some scientist could come up with an actual amount of energy required to split a log, and it's pretty likely that the actual least amount of energy consumed for splitting is in the form of a hydraulic splitter in vertical mode because the maul/axe head does not need to be lifted/swung every time, and the log needs to be lifted and moved the smallest amount of distance. Human energy is still energy that needs to be produced in the form of chemical energy from the food we eat.
edit: HB, maybe you should take the same stance as Jimmy on this one, and then someone might be willing to make that trade! :coolgrin:
Highbeam said:jimmy55 said:Highbeam said:I own one, use one, and still think it is a ridiculously dangerous tool. I respect your, and my, right to own one and hope to always have that right.
Yes it is fast. I can't think of a more dangerous tool.
If its so dangerous why do you continue to use it? Which mounting plate do you use? I also have an adapter and use mine on my post auger hooked to my IH TRACTOR. I can pick up a 20ft section in seconds and lift it up and cut my desired lengths falling in splits as i cut. After over 100 cords of wood split with this tool i cant understand why you think its so dangerous.Whatever torque that the stickler may place on the log while splitting is directed to the ground.Much safer than a hydraulic system in my opinion
I use it because it's all I have. Sometimes you have to make do, I would gladly trade this one for a hydraulic splitter. Click on the link in my signature to see the photos, I use a tractor mounted version which is a relatively safe application of the screw principle.
There are two obvious risks in this tool. The screw can suck you into it and rip you apart and the other risk is when a shorter log will begin to spin and break your arms. I've definitely had the logs start to spin but was able to stand clear in time. None of these risks are present with a traditional hydraulic splitter. What makes these two risks less manageable is the speed at which the screw turns and the inability to stop it from turning. Have you noticed that most every tool from chainsaws, to lawnmowers has a dead man shutoff that stops the implement if the human operator lets go of the device?
If there was a foot pedal that energized the screw until you let off of it or some other sort of on/off button the risk would be considerably less.
Karl: I can't think of a commonly found and mass produced tool that is more dangerous.
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