I need some gravel for my driveway. Freezing/warm temps have turned it into gumbo. Any great harm in driving Aton of gravel 20 miles in my half ton chevy?
This may have been true once upon a time or maybe with another brand of truck but a GM half ton carries much LESS than a half ton legally. The typical 4x4 chevy half ton weighs 5500+ lbs, my last one weighed 5800 lbs empty. The GVWR is 6200 lbs. That's 400 lbs of gravel.mayhem said:You guys all know that the term half ton as it applies to a pickup truck has no bearing on its actual load capacity, right? 50-60 years ago a half ton truck was rated to carry a half ton, not its very different. A half ton truck has a specific GVWR and fawr and rawr rating, mandated by the federal govt (I think). Subtract your truck's actual weight with you in it from your GVWR and you know your safe loading capacity...its probably somewhere in the 2000lb range.
The delivery around here is brutal. When I pick up 4 ton with my dump trailer, I pay $40. When I have 12 ton delivered to a jobsite, it is $400.Highbeam said:Have you even asked about a price for delivery?
I disagree. Its simply not possible to buy a full size pickup truck with a 400lb carrying capacity...at least not a "normal" pickup...Chevy lists a 6200lb gvwr for the hybrid...not sure of its curb weight. Think about it, you're saying if you put two grown men in the back of a pickup truck that you're over its carrying capacity. No disrespect intended, but you've got a math error somewhere...I suspect its in the weight of the truck.Highbeam said:This may have been true once upon a time or maybe with another brand of truck but a GM half ton carries much LESS than a half ton legally. The typical 4x4 chevy half ton weighs 5500+ lbs, my last one weighed 5800 lbs empty. The GVWR is 6200 lbs. That's 400 lbs of gravel.mayhem said:You guys all know that the term half ton as it applies to a pickup truck has no bearing on its actual load capacity, right? 50-60 years ago a half ton truck was rated to carry a half ton, not its very different. A half ton truck has a specific GVWR and fawr and rawr rating, mandated by the federal govt (I think). Subtract your truck's actual weight with you in it from your GVWR and you know your safe loading capacity...its probably somewhere in the 2000lb range.
I am not mistaken. My 1998 K1500 chevy 4x4 pickup with every option available was 5800 lbs empty weighed several times at DOT scales, quarries, and even the dump. I tow my tractor and an RV so combined weight rating and gross vehicle rating are extremely important. You first have to realize that a half ton pickup is expected to have luxurious features to be used by the middle class as a commuter. They often have the same body and engine as a 3/4 ton and only go lightweight on the running gear. With a 6200#GVWR my legal payload was 400 lbs, yes, two fat chicks. You can buy a new truck with higher GVWR or you could just buy a one ton truck to fix this problem.mayhem said:I disagree. Its simply not possible to buy a full size pickup truck with a 400lb carrying capacity...at least not a "normal" pickup...Chevy lists a 6200lb gvwr for the hybrid...not sure of its curb weight. Think about it, you're saying if you put two grown men in the back of a pickup truck that you're over its carrying capacity. No disrespect intended, but you've got a math error somewhere...I suspect its in the weight of the truck.
I don't have access to a half ton pickup to check right now, but all I can find online are GVWR of either 6800 or 6900lb for chevy 1500's (Silverado "classic" is 6900, the current body style is 6800). Edmunds lists the same trucks as about 4200-4300 lb curb weight...add in all fluids and a driver and you're nowhere near 4800lb. My 3/4 ton Silverado (ext cab, 4x4) weighs in at 5800lb with me in the driver's seat, a full tank of gas and the push plates for my plow installed. No way a half ton is anywhere near that weight...those things weigh in well under 5000lb.
A ton is pushing reason as far as the rateed carrying capacity, but the max safe payload capacity is waay, way closer to a full ton than to 400lb.