Tree id (post oak/red oak?)

[Newt243]

Just fell these 2 dead standing trees. I'm fairly decent at telling trees by their leaves but not bark. One is fairly punky but has decent heartwood. What do y'all think?

 

[wooddope]

Piece on the chopping block looks like ash to me. The one on the ground with the shrooms looks oakie. Could be a 3rd type there as splitting block looks like maple. Some pics of grain would help.

 

[Newt243]

Piece on the chopping block looks like ash to me. The one on the ground with the shrooms looks oakie. Could be a 3rd type there as splitting block looks like maple. Some pics of grain would help.

The chopping block has been there awhile and from a different tree. The lighter colored splits where harder to cut through with the chainsaw but could be split swinging an axe with one hand. They didn't break apart like they were punky, just very easy to split.

 

[wooddope]

The chopping block has been there awhile and from a different tree. The lighter colored splits where harder to cut through with the chainsaw but could be split swinging an axe with one hand. They didn't break apart like they were punky, just very easy to split.

Yeah white wood is ash and other oak or maybe hickory? Either way good score.

 

[Newt243]

Yeah white wood is ash and other oak or maybe hickory? Either way good score.

I was really thinking the white wood was a post oak. There are a bunch of living ones around the one I fell that still had leaves attached. I will try to get a pic of the living ones. I do live on a bayou and my land is very wet. Lots of white, red, and water oaks as well as hickory.

 

[FaithfulWoodsman]

White splits are ash. Even though some post oaks can have some of the x pattern it wouldn't be that prolific on rounds that small. It's also in the white oak family and the bark color isn't that whitish-grey color.

Second one is a red oak. I get lots like that with some punk, but still great once dry. Great score.

 

[Newt243]

White splits are ash. Even though some post oaks can have some of the x pattern it wouldn't be that prolific on rounds that small. It's also in the white oak family and the bark color isn't that whitish-grey color.

Second one is a red oak. I get lots like that with some punk, but still great once dry. Great score.

Here are some pics of a living tree that is the same as the one you said was ash. I cut another dead one down next to the living one. Let me know what you think. I am curious because I have quite a few that I could cut that are standing dead.

 

[Paulywalnut]

Red oak punk wood is as good as most others

 

[Newt243]

Red oak punk wood is as good as most others

I will and have been burning the red oak. It's the other tree I am not sure about.

 

[FaithfulWoodsman]

OK.....Well I don't think those are all the same tree. I see the post oak with leaves, but if you look close the x pattern is not very pronounced like in the ash splits. The ridge width and furrow depth are similar, but ash has very noticeable x pattern and the oak has more longer strips of ridges. Not sure what the one on the ground is. Certainly could be oak, could be ash but bark is off again. It honestly looks like elm to me, bark and dark cambien, but it's so dead it's hard to tell. I can tell you a foolproof way to identify if what you've got is oak, no matter what tree. Take a close up clear pic of the end grain of a decent sized round and check for medullary rays. If any of those have them, it's oak. Also see lots of trees in the background without leaves, which means there's other species around the oaks you have.

 

[Newt243]

OK.....Well I don't think those are all the same tree. I see the post oak with leaves, but if you look close the x pattern is not very pronounced like in the ash splits. The ridge width and furrow depth are similar, but ash has very noticeable x pattern and the oak has more longer strips of ridges. Not sure what the one on the ground is. Certainly could be oak, could be ash but bark is off again. It honestly looks like elm to me, bark and dark cambien, but it's so dead it's hard to tell. I can tell you a foolproof way to identify if what you've got is oak, no matter what tree. Take a close up clear pic of the end grain of a decent sized round and check for medullary rays. If any of those have them, it's oak. Also see lots of trees in the background without leaves, which means there's other species around the oaks you have.

Here I see a pic of two rounds. There are other trees in this particular area but it's predominantly post oaks in a 100 yard radios.

 

[wooddope]

Here I see a pic of two rounds. There are other trees in this particular area but it's predominantly post oaks in a 100 yard radios.

Seems like it must be post oak then happy burning!

 

[FaithfulWoodsman]

Yep, those rounds are oak, but they don't look like the rounds in your first set of pics. Still think those are ash. But if a lot of what you cut has those rays in it, then it's deff oak heavy. Bet it's nice to have that.