Tree ID Question

[chemie]

I just found out that a neighbor across the street is having two trees chopped down. Tree service guys told me that they are both maple but different kinds. I intend to take some , split them small to burn them
-hopefully - next March, April. Can you please let me identify the types of Maple ( if they indeed are Maple).
First tree:

Second Tree

 

[CincyBurner]

1st Tree: sycamore maple (Acer pseudoplatanus) - (broken link removed)
Exotic that is planted as a specimen tree, but not common.

2nd Tree: Norway maple (Acer platanoides) - http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=6
Common, exotic that is invasive.
Norway maple probably burns like sugar maple, perhaps a bit fewer Btu. Not sure about sycamore maple. That's a rare one.

 

[chemie]

1st Tree: sycamore maple (Acer pseudoplatanus) - (broken link removed)
Exotic that is planted as a specimen tree, but not common.

2nd Tree: Norway maple (Acer platanoides) - http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=6
Common, exotic that is invasive.
Norway maple probably burns like sugar maple, perhaps a bit fewer Btu. Not sure about sycamore maple. That's a rare one.

Thank you. I’ll take only Norway Maple. Split them small hoping they will be ready to burn by March-April.

 

[ValleyCottageSplitter]

There is lots of Sycamore around the Tri state area. It's horrible to split and dries very light. Norway maple is similar to red oak. Takes awhile to season but good firewood. It seems to leave a lot of ash if that is a problem...

I had Norway stacked in the woods with a tarp and it was barely seasoned at all after 1yr. It took 1 more year, single row, covered in the yard to get it under 20% moisture. It was also split very small.

If you need something by March, Sycamore could be a better bet but you might have an easier time with with poplar or red maple.

 

[chemie]

There is lots of Sycamore around the Tri state area. It's horrible to split and dries very light. Norway maple is similar to red oak. Takes awhile to season but good firewood. It seems to leave a lot of ash if that is a problem...

I had Norway stacked in the woods with a tarp and it was barely seasoned at all after 1yr. It took 1 more year, single row, covered in the yard to get it under 20% moisture. It was also split very small.

If you need something by March, Sycamore could be a better bet but you might have an easier time with with poplar or red maple.

I got almost 0.4 cords half-half of Sycamore Maple and Norway Maple. I find it was not difficult to split Sycamore on an electric splitter. No different that any others.
Father in-law squeezed them on a pallet in our neighbors’ yard that we already abused with 1.5 cords.
My neighbors’s backyard gets relatively better sun and wind than ours. 2 season is too long for me considering very limited space we have.
As soon as there is a space on the racks , I will transfer them to the racks with single space.
I am hoping they will ve burnable by March-April.

 

[ValleyCottageSplitter]

I think best case, covered on that pallet, the Norway Maple will be 28% moisture by March. There is a chance the Sycamore is in the 22-25% range by then.

 

[hickoryhoarder]

The bark of the first looks like sycamore, but the leaves do not.

Second is Norway maple.

 

[CincyBurner]

The bark of the first looks like sycamore, but the leaves do not.

. . . but the leaves do look like the leaves of Acer pseudoplatanus. In the first pic (and the 4th pic) you can see the double winged samara ('helicopter' seed) of a maple. It's difficult to see but the branching is opposite too.
Both tree #1 and tree #2 are Acer.