Where are you in SE PA? I'm also in SE PA and ordered an Ashford 25 locally. They also sell the Sirocco 25. I'm all in around 5300 on the AShford and I believe the Sirocco is about 300 dollars cheaper. This is including the insulated liner, and all installation costs. They are even hardwiring the electrical.Not a lot of local dealers for BlazeKing. The (4/5 stars) one I contacted wants $6600 for the works, including $3999 for the Sirocco unit itself. Ouch. Internet price I saw for the unit was just under $3k wo surround.
I am getting other quotes....One highly rated (5 star) outfit sells the QF Expedition II, which is also an EPA 2020 flush insert with couple surround options that would cover my (kinda tall) fireplace opening. Opinions on this new QF insert?
Given that I am selling my house in a couple years, and only burn recreationally, appearance and price might win over performance and durability.
Read the fine print and see how they are determining efficiency. This is important. If they are going by the EPA listed overall efficiency then no, many do not exceed 75% unless they are pellet stoves. If this is the case, Regency and Blaze King may be the best choices for the rebate.I guess I can get $300 for any stove with eff >75%. Is that gonna be any EPA 2020 model in practice?
Where are you in SE PA? There's an ace hardware in Pennsburg 18073 that sells blaze king. You can probably get the Sirocco with installation for about 5k.Yeah, the close by BK dealer is pretty high for the works ($6600). I'm in Delaware county.
I called @xshmoo recommendation, and he came in $700 cheaper on the Sirocco stove itself...still waiting on the quote.
I am not excited about the QuadrFires or the Montpellier, bc of the lack of air control.
The FPX medium and clones are much prettier, and completely flush. But look like they will end up costing nearly the same amount as the Sirocco. At that point, I'll probably pick the BK, even if it is overkill for what I need. Its just a nice unit for the price.
Hey did you ever find out if this unit was still available? My dealer in Pennsburg said my estimated arrival date was 10/30 on the unit and now its been pushed back to 11/30.Oh yeah I completely forgot the blaze king dealer fireplace and chimney professionals up in kintnersville, up by lake nockamixon had a leftover Ashford I was gonna pick up for 3k but it’s not gonna fit. but that was a little bit ago you could call and see if he still has it
Hey did you ever find out if this unit was still available? My dealer in Pennsburg said my estimated arrival date was 10/30 on the unit and now its been pushed back to 11/30.
Correct..I am still waiting for sweeps and installers to get back to me, but have hit a snag.
The first installer cam out and flagged my clearances for the Sirocco.
My mantle is quite high, at 52" off the floor. But I have combustible facing which is just 38" off the floor.
The manual says the minimum clearance to facing is 39 1/2" off the floor. Installer suggested a mantle shield, but had not done that before.
And in an earlier thread here, @BKVP suggested there is no rated mantle shield for this unit?
Either I'm misreading something or there's conflicting information between the brochure and the manual. The brochure states the clearance required from top of door opening to mantle as 38", however the manual, on page 12, states that it's 20". Am I missing something? Is the brochure intending to...www.hearth.com
It would be really helpful if you posted some pictures showing your situation.OK, regrouping a bit.
I had looked at the manual for clearances, which have an arrow from the unit to the underside of the mantel. And since my Mantel is 52" I figured I was fine....but the words say combustible facing.
A quick scan of all the flush inserts discussed in this thread shows that they ALL require 39-40" from the floor to combustible facing, versus my 38". While some of the others may allow shields, I don't like the look of the shields. (I'm ok with a mantel shield tbh, but the slanted metal shield poking out from the unit, looks ridiculous on a flush mount imo).
The one exception is the PE Neo. It is only 34" from the floor to combustible facing. But the unit itself is pretty tiny, and would need a large custom surround to cover my large fireplace opening, which is 31.5" tall.
My house was the first house build by a small house builder....it has a LOT of weird, non-standard features that make it hard to retrofit. The guy got pretty 'creative' with a lot of details.
There is hearth protection, which is a 12" 'deep' slab of slate which is sunk flush into the poured concrete slab floor. So I don't NEED hearth protection on the front, but I would need to have a strip of 4-6" of unfinished poured concrete exposed before carpeting...and which is already covered in black mastic, which might contain asbestos and so I don't want to grind it off. Little easter eggs all over this house.
So, I was already going to lay a 20" deep slab of slate or other stone over the hearth.
I am now looking at covering the crappy red brick surround (with badly patched and stained mortar joints) with a stone surround 'kit'. This would allow me to slightly drop the height of the fireplace opening, so I could so with a small metal surround, instead of a large surround.
I would match the stone surround to the hearth slab.
I don't love the wood surround/mantel that is there, which shows some OLD pyrolysis damage, puttied and painted over (another Easter Egg). Its a cheapo choice (I can see similar at Home Despot for $500).
While I don't want to climb on my roof with a liner kit, I could see myself doing the demo on the wood mantel, glueing up a new stone surround and hearth extension, and buying a new mantel/wood surround to go around that. I would pick something that fits the contemporary features of my house and the insert to be installed. It would be spiffy.
Sound crazy to anyone here?