Want to heat my garage

[Motor7]

Rib, look on craigslist for a used stove. There are many old iron ones in my area in the $2-400 range. An old Fisher, Buck, etc will do nicely in a garage. There were also a bunch of name brand copy's made in the early 80's that are not bad stoves. Here is a pic of one my neighbor had rusting away in his barn....it was free. I have never found any info on the "Timber" name, but it is a good stove.

Put some quality flue pipe in, then sit back, fire up the stove, a Maduro & a High Life and enjoy!

RD

 

[Motor7]

More "Man Cave" fodder:

 

[firefighterjake]

I agree with Sparkster, many people here have heated garages, most using some form of natural gas (like my boiler). What I do not know is the reason stoves specifically are not allowed. I understand that gas can leak and fumes will ignite with an open source of flame be it a boiler, hot water tank or furnace. Those are obvious risks to anyone heating a garage. Why are stoves any worse then the previously mentioned sources of ignition? FFJake can you comment on this?

To tell the truth . . . I'm not really sure why . . . as you stated there is the obvious concern over open flame of the woodstove and flammable gases . . . but as also stated there are other open source flames in hot water heaters, oil furnaces and other equipment . . . all I can speculate . . . and it's just speculation on my part . . . is that with most of those other heaters the flame is "hidden" away a bit more and generally the access is relatively limited vs. a woodstove with the door open . . . that said . . . I have heard of fires/explosions started when flammable gases came in contact with gas-fired water heaters, furnaces, portable heaters, etc.

 

['bert]

I think we need to call in the Myth Busters on this one. I bet it goes back to the "olden days" when people who did not know better used to burn PINE!

I think I may have to call my ins co. and see what the rules be here in the 'bert.

One of the only reasons that I can think of is "if" your stove caused a fire you would not know about it as shops / garages tend to go for longer periods of time with no one there. Whereas my boiler would immediately disconnect itself and come to the house and knock on the door and say "i think i started a little extra fire out there in the shop" Never mind - I think we can count this one as ins co folklore.

Lets get back to the original topic - I think one of the Drolet stoves may do well in a garage and they are reasonably priced. Of course they are made in Canada, so Obambam may not like that idea. Being your president is all about buying American made.

 

[ribs1]

I think I am going to get a wood stove out there. I can easily just store gasoline in my other garage.
I forgot to mention there is already a wood stove out there but it is probably 50 years old and its in really bad shape. The good news is, there is already a flew going up through the rood and it looks like good pipe.
When I get the stove I will probably have my chimney sweep install it for me and check that pipe etc.

Anyway, can I get a few recommendations for a good stove to put out there? My guess is that the space is about 400 sq feet or so. It is insulated and pretty good too for a garage/pole barn, but it doesn't look like whoever built it went crazy with the insulation. I am not great at estimating sq footage but think 2 car garage size.

I have been checking out those Drolet stoves on the website and so far they seem like a good cheap option. Can anyone recommend a specific model? Or another brand?
BTW I am good friends with a dealer who sells PE, Jotul, Hearthstone, Vogelzang and a few others but not Drolet. She owes me some money for some computer work and would probably sell me a stove at cost.
Thanks

 

[ribs1]

Forgot to mention. I have been looking on CL the last few days and mostly junk in my area. Besides, I think I want to get a modern efficient stove.

 

[KevinK]

I have a 26x32 detached garage (well insulated), ...but none-the-less, ...I use a ceiling hung/mounted propane heater and it works fine. I have the thermostat set around 45-50, ...until I need to do some work out there. I purchased the unit used (slightly used from a bus garage in town) and haven't had an issue at all...

You can see it in this photo in the background...

 

[BrowningBAR]

Just for the sake of argument, what would be a good wood stove to heat a small space like this?
I wouldn't want to spend a ton of money but would like something efficient.
Thanks

What about a coal stove or pellet stove? Before I realized the stove in the garage was a 'no-go' I was thinking of (when I build my garage) putting in a coal or pellet stove since they have long burn times. I figured I would have plenty of space to store the coal/pellets and it wouldn't be used nearly as much as a house stove so I wouldn't need an entire winter's worth of pellets/coal.

 

[Rowski]

More "Man Cave" fodder:

Airedale, wood stove, mancave... Awesome!!

Gotta lota love them Airedales!!

 

[Lumber-Jack]

Man Cave is right,
that's exactly the phrase a friend of mine used when he saw my garage hearth.
An oldy but it's been keeping me nice and toasty in there this winter, while I worked on many projects.

Oh yeah, the stove and chimney cost me only $100 bucks. Best money I ever spent. ;-)

 

[john26]

My little brother just bought a house with a 30x40 detached metal building he wanted to heat it with wood. The first thing he did was call his insurance agent he was told he could heat it with a wood stove or wood furnace inside the shop he told them he would have vehicles inside from time to time and flamable liquids. The insurance company said to make sure what ever he put in had a UL rating and install it at the proper clearances. He didn't feel comfortable with it in the shop and didn't what all the mess from wood or ash in there so he bought a wood furnace of cl for $300 and placed it behind the shop and built a small metal shed around it. we plan to run duct work through the wall into the shop.

 

[Bigg_Redd]

OK,
I have a detached garage that is somewhat insulated. From what I have read, a wood stove is a no go.
I am wondering what would be the most efficient way to heat this space. It's about a 2 car garage btw.
Thanks

get a portable k-1 heater. fill it. light it. get it going real good. then kick the thing over. let it burn down the garage. When the insurance guy talks to you about a new garage and having a woodstove in the new garage, tell him you wouldn't have been able to kick (I mean, accidently step into) over a 400 lb stove screwed to a stack of pipe and metalbestos..... PLease know I am just kidding, and it against code in alot of places, now, to install a woodstove in a garage. but ironically nothing is said about portable k-1 heaters

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[BrowningBAR]

Reality = wood is as safe in a shop as in a house...

Except in the bedroom. If you put your stove in the bedroom it will instantly explode or reach out and set the drapes on fire.

 

[Shari]

Reality = wood is as safe in a shop as in a house...

Except in the bedroom. If you put your stove in the bedroom it will instantly explode or reach out and set the drapes on fire.

Well.... Around here the reason you are not allowed a wood stove in a bedroom is the thought that at some time the bedroom door might get closed when the stove is burning, the stove will use up the available oxygen and then emit carbon dioxide back into the room.

Shari

 

[Bigg_Redd]

Reality = wood is as safe in a shop as in a house...

Except in the bedroom. If you put your stove in the bedroom it will instantly explode or reach out and set the drapes on fire.

Oh yes. I forgot about that.

 

[BrowningBAR]

Reality = wood is as safe in a shop as in a house...

Except in the bedroom. If you put your stove in the bedroom it will instantly explode or reach out and set the drapes on fire.

Well.... Around here the reason you are not allowed a wood stove in a bedroom is the thought that at some time the bedroom door might get closed when the stove is burning, the stove will use up the available oxygen and then emit carbon dioxide back into the room.

Shari

I can just as easily close all the doors to my kitchen and it is smaller than my bedroom, yet a stove is quite legal to be in the kitchen.

I'm not saying you are wrong and you aren't the one that created the codes or laws, but the reasoning that is given to back up this code does not hold up.

 

[Bigg_Redd]

Reality = wood is as safe in a shop as in a house...

Except in the bedroom. If you put your stove in the bedroom it will instantly explode or reach out and set the drapes on fire.

Well.... Around here the reason you are not allowed a wood stove in a bedroom is the thought that at some time the bedroom door might get closed when the stove is burning, the stove will use up the available oxygen and then emit carbon dioxide back into the room.

Shari

Yet somehow I nap on the couch next to the stove on the reg with all the windows closed all with no apparent ill effects.

 

[Shari]

Reality = wood is as safe in a shop as in a house...

Except in the bedroom. If you put your stove in the bedroom it will instantly explode or reach out and set the drapes on fire.

Well.... Around here the reason you are not allowed a wood stove in a bedroom is the thought that at some time the bedroom door might get closed when the stove is burning, the stove will use up the available oxygen and then emit carbon dioxide back into the room.

Shari

I can just as easily close all the doors to my kitchen and it is smaller than my bedroom, yet a stove is quite legal to be in the kitchen.

Codes are different depending where you live. We just went through this with our code inspector and he was adamant about 'cubic foot' of clear, open area for our planned install. We had to provide cubic foot of our living room / dining room / kitchen which are all open to the stove area. His final words to us were "Just don't go putting any doors in between any of those rooms."

Shari

 

[BrowningBAR]

Reality = wood is as safe in a shop as in a house...

Except in the bedroom. If you put your stove in the bedroom it will instantly explode or reach out and set the drapes on fire.

Well.... Around here the reason you are not allowed a wood stove in a bedroom is the thought that at some time the bedroom door might get closed when the stove is burning, the stove will use up the available oxygen and then emit carbon dioxide back into the room.

Shari

I can just as easily close all the doors to my kitchen and it is smaller than my bedroom, yet a stove is quite legal to be in the kitchen.

Codes are different depending where you live. We just went through this with our code inspector and he was adamant about 'cubic foot' of clear, open area for our planned install. We had to provide cubic foot of our living room / dining room / kitchen which are all open to the stove area. His final words to us were "Just don't go putting any doors in between any of those rooms."

Shari

I would be completely screwed. This old house has quite the many doors.

 

[Shari]

Reality = wood is as safe in a shop as in a house...

Except in the bedroom. If you put your stove in the bedroom it will instantly explode or reach out and set the drapes on fire.

Well.... Around here the reason you are not allowed a wood stove in a bedroom is the thought that at some time the bedroom door might get closed when the stove is burning, the stove will use up the available oxygen and then emit carbon dioxide back into the room.

Shari

I can just as easily close all the doors to my kitchen and it is smaller than my bedroom, yet a stove is quite legal to be in the kitchen.

Codes are different depending where you live. We just went through this with our code inspector and he was adamant about 'cubic foot' of clear, open area for our planned install. We had to provide cubic foot of our living room / dining room / kitchen which are all open to the stove area. His final words to us were "Just don't go putting any doors in between any of those rooms."

Shari

I would be completely screwed. This old house has quite the many doors.

I just about flipped out when our inspector said this about 'cubic foot'. I've been hanging around here at hearth.com for a little more than a year, learned a lot and put money down on a stove - then went to the city to get the permit and then the cu ft thing came up - I just about puked until we figured it out on paper that we would not have a problem. Maybe this is a 'new' thing and our city is just being pro-active? I dunno.

Shari

 

[CSCPeter]

Solid fuel-burning appliances listed for installation in enclosed spaces or alcoves less than 512 cu ft shall be
installed in accordance with the requirements of the listing and the manufacturer's instructions. [ NFPA 211 Sec
12.2.2.1]

Solid fuel-burning appliances shall not be installed in any location where gasoline or any other flammable
vapors or gases are present. [ NFPA 211 Sec 12.2.3 ]

I also added the subject to the mythbusters site, mostly cause I would love to see a woodstove and gas vapors combine in high speed!!

 

[fossil]

NFPA 211 is a standard, not a code. NFPA is not a government agency. Whatever NFPA 211 says may or may not be the final word as far as the code goes where you live. If you're interested in what's required by local code, then you need to look into that with whoever the local Authority Having Jurisdiction is. Could be the city, or the county, or the Fire Marshall...depends on where you live. Some folks live where nobody seems to care, in which case they can default to NFPA 211 or, I guess, just do as they damn well please...as lots of folks do anyway. I, personally, really like knowing that whatever I do on my property is at least as safe as it's required to be, whether I ever let anyone else critique it or not. Rick

 

[CSCPeter]

When was it referred to as code?
NFPA is used as a standard or guide to most codes and to NFI Certification

 

[boostnut]

I put a cheap Century stove in my detached 2 car garage (24' x 24') this fall. Picked it up from CL for $300, brand new, never even had a chimney hooked up to it. Cost about $600 total (chimney, flashing,....) and worth every penny so far. Called my insurance agent before pulling the trigger and got the ok. Switched insurace companies a month ago (state farm to american family), new agent says ok as long as its installed per code and there are no flamable liquids stored in the garage. Sure filled up the garden shed I built last summer quick! BTW, only the walls of my garage are insulated. There is no ceiling or insulation at the roof. When you look up you see the roof sheeting. Much to my suprise that stove will maintain 55 - 60 degrees in the garage on very little wood. I really should put some insulation up.

 

[G-rott]

"Yet somehow I nap on the couch next to the stove on the reg with all the windows closed all with no apparent ill effects.[/quote]


Apparent may be the key word...




Just joking