What is this firewood?

andym

Feeling the Heat
Feb 6, 2020
338
Hicksville, Ohio
Can someone help me ID this wood? It was a fairly large tree that had a section split off. I cut one like this last year and know it splits beautiful by hand. It's quite heavy (green). I don't have any leaves unfortunately. Last year I thought it was red oak, but am now pretty sure it's something else. Another type of oak? Growing in the woods it resembles oak. 20210109_172131.jpg 20210109_172119.jpg 20210109_172205.jpg 20210109_172216.jpg 20210109_172301.jpg
 

osagebow

Minister of Fire
Jan 29, 2012
1,672
Shenandoah Valley, VA
If it is Sass. should smell like rootbeer. Not a lot of btu's, it is rot resiatantand light to carry so i use it for stringers under the stacks. Lasts 6 years in the dirt, enough for two oak rotations
 

andym

Feeling the Heat
Feb 6, 2020
338
Hicksville, Ohio
I'll sniff it tomorrow I guess. I do recall it being a little stronger smelling than some. I'm seeing btu ratings around 18-19million? I burn a lot of white elm which is similar BTU wood. I was hoping it was something much better! It'll burn though.
 
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CincyBurner

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Mar 10, 2015
547
SW Ohio
Kentucky coffeetree (Gymnocladus dioicus)
cornflake bark + orangish heartwood
Largest leaf (double compound) is US forests.
Sassafras will be low weight wood, plus it is fragrant and its bark is thick and soft.​
https://vtcommunityforestry.org/news/tree-spotlight-kentucky-coffeetree
http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/DENDROLOGY/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=158
It's a legume like black locust and honeylocust so its wood should be fairly dense and good burning, but never came across it much for firewood.
 

andym

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Feb 6, 2020
338
Hicksville, Ohio
Im in Northern Indiana. That doesn't look like sassafras we have here. You definitely wouldn't describe it as heavy. Oak or hickory my guess
I don't cut a lot of green wood but it is fairly heavy. Much heavier than standing dead ash. It's heavier than green walnut. Ive never cut much fresh oak or hickory.
 

andym

Feeling the Heat
Feb 6, 2020
338
Hicksville, Ohio
Kentucky coffeetree (Gymnocladus dioicus)
cornflake bark + orangish heartwood
Largest leaf (double compound) is US forests.
Sassafras will be low weight wood, plus it is fragrant and its bark is thick and soft.​
https://vtcommunityforestry.org/news/tree-spotlight-kentucky-coffeetree
http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/DENDROLOGY/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=158
It's a legume like black locust and honeylocust so its wood should be fairly dense and good burning, but never came across it much for firewood.
You could be right. The bark is very similar. I will examine a few more pieces this afternoon if I have time. I may need to wait til spring to make a positive ID.
 

CincyBurner

Minister of Fire
Mar 10, 2015
547
SW Ohio
I will examine a few more pieces this afternoon
andy -
If still possible inspect twigs/ bud scars. KY coffeetree has stout twigs with distinctive heart-shaped bud scar.
I think wood itself looks similar to honeylocust, but orange instead of yellow.
Check for seed pods (honeylocust & black locust have pods too), but KY coffeetree pods are big & thick. Nothing else looks like them. They litter site for months.
Note: KY coffeetree are dioecious (separate male and female trees), so seed pods only on female trees. It's a great tree for the landscape, if you select a male varietal.​
 

hickoryhoarder

Minister of Fire
Apr 5, 2013
539
Indiana
I like the Kentucky coffee tree idea, because I haven't seen this wood in splits or rounds before. I'm used to judging the tree from how it branches, its fruit, its leaves, etc. Not the bark.
 

andym

Feeling the Heat
Feb 6, 2020
338
Hicksville, Ohio
I would certainly not describe the smell of a fresh split or the smell of the bark as resembling root beer. It has a nice wet wood scent, but that's it. One guy who's seen it said definitely not sassafras. I may have time this week to scout the area for leaves or seed pods and will post a pic of the other live trees like it.