ChillyGator said:
Yea, Florida is probably not where stove manufacturers get the best bang for their buck !
why no large contemporary wood stoves
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Yea, Florida is probably not where stove manufacturers get the best bang for their buck !
But if you are looking for a large contemp stove:
This one seems large enough for anybody.
http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Bruno-T14-Stove.html
You can through wood up to 1 meter in this one.
This one seems large enough for anybody.
http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Bruno-T14-Stove.html
You can through wood up to 1 meter in this one.
MishMouse said:But if you are looking for a large contemp stove:
This one seems large enough for anybody.
http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Bruno-T14-Stove.html
You can through wood up to 1 meter in this one.
Schwing!!
to the OP
contemporary woodstoves typically come from euro designs: euro designs are smaller (smaller homes over there) and take smaller wood (not as much firewood is availiable). PE does a "Fusion" stove which is a dressed out super series to give the euro look, but with a US sized firebox. Scan does the Anderson, which takes an 18" log, but is not big enough to do much over 1000 sqft nor over a 5 hr burn time. Being that contemporary stoves represent only about 10% of the availiable market, you'd be hard pressed to find too many mfgs that would invest the big $ needed to put out a 3-4 cubic ft monster stove with a contemporary design.
contemporary woodstoves typically come from euro designs: euro designs are smaller (smaller homes over there) and take smaller wood (not as much firewood is availiable). PE does a "Fusion" stove which is a dressed out super series to give the euro look, but with a US sized firebox. Scan does the Anderson, which takes an 18" log, but is not big enough to do much over 1000 sqft nor over a 5 hr burn time. Being that contemporary stoves represent only about 10% of the availiable market, you'd be hard pressed to find too many mfgs that would invest the big $ needed to put out a 3-4 cubic ft monster stove with a contemporary design.
As noted - Blaze King does...not sure why you have not found this in your search...
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Now your talking!MishMouse said:But if you are looking for a large contemp stove:
This one seems large enough for anybody.
http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Bruno-T14-Stove.html
You can through wood up to 1 meter in this one.
thanks for your input, by contemporary I mean clean linear lines, you are right, it seems to me most contemporary wood stoves are of European design. Perhaps because they have smaller homes, less wood available , etc. I do get the impression from talking to several sales people that many U.S manufactures are developing larger contemporary stoves to be out in 2011 or so. but no one just yet.
I do like the look of the Regency Altera and a similar style with a bigger box may be something I would purchase.
Dwain.
I do like the look of the Regency Altera and a similar style with a bigger box may be something I would purchase.
Dwain.
MishMouse said:But if you are looking for a large contemp stove:
This one seems large enough for anybody.
http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Bruno-T14-Stove.html
You can through wood up to 1 meter in this one.
Strange like this one...looks like it has headers..lol.
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I have seen the bigger Alterra, with the f2400 box. 75000 btu's of contemporary.
Should be available shortly.
Should be available shortly.
BB, That is pretty much my story as well. Except that I haven't had the "go nuclear" problems that you had with the S/S liner. I wanted to direct connect mine the day I "slammed" it in the fireplace, AND every year there after when I pulled it out to clean my chimney :coolgrin: I just couldn't figure out how to do it until I got on this forum. I also know of only ONE person in my area that has an EPA stove.BrotherBart said:
wkpoor said:
I can relate to your view. When bought my first used Cat stove 3 years ago I didn't know what it was when I boought it. The guy I bought it from didn't put a name or model in the advertisement and he didn't have a clue what a Cat stove meant either. When I bought the second one I had to explain to the guy I bought it from what a catalytic stove was and what it did.
My parents bought a home with a Xtroardinaire 36 cat insert that the previous owner installed. He didn't know what a catalytic did and told my parents the completely wrong way to operate it. I just figured out they had it and used it for the first time this fall after spending 2 hours cleaning out the catalytic and insert. Works great now and doubled the burn time for my parents.
I know about 5 other long time wood burners that burn wood and they have never heard of or care to learn about EPA stuff. They use wood furnaces vs stoves so that might explain some of that.
If it wasn't for logging in here and downloading manuals for the stoves I still wouldn't have a clue.
Recently, my brother in law was looking at putting a woodburner in. I told him about the newer technology and cleaner burning methods. I think he bought one last week and is having it put in.
Somewhat different point of view here, but with parallels.
I learned about EPA stoves fairly early on - 1989 or thereabouts - and became fascinated with the science of solid fuel combustion. Though I was a very poor student, I wanted (ardently) to design and build custom stoves... but didn't have the resources to pursue the dream... and also determined that at that time even one-off stoves had to be certified (at significant cost per each) to be sold. The cards seemed stacked against custom builds.
Years later, having largely ignored industry and market trends in the meanwhile, I found that exceptions had been established for 'exempt' stoves... mainly cheap camp stoves, with no pretense of a clean burn. I was - to put it mildly - incensed... that a custom builder couldn't (at one time) sell his wares, when (subsequently) cheap junk slipped under the regulations.
Twenty years hence, there's no likelihood that I'll joust the same windmills.
Sour grapes, I guess, but there you are.
Peter B.
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I learned about EPA stoves fairly early on - 1989 or thereabouts - and became fascinated with the science of solid fuel combustion. Though I was a very poor student, I wanted (ardently) to design and build custom stoves... but didn't have the resources to pursue the dream... and also determined that at that time even one-off stoves had to be certified (at significant cost per each) to be sold. The cards seemed stacked against custom builds.
Years later, having largely ignored industry and market trends in the meanwhile, I found that exceptions had been established for 'exempt' stoves... mainly cheap camp stoves, with no pretense of a clean burn. I was - to put it mildly - incensed... that a custom builder couldn't (at one time) sell his wares, when (subsequently) cheap junk slipped under the regulations.
Twenty years hence, there's no likelihood that I'll joust the same windmills.
Sour grapes, I guess, but there you are.
Peter B.
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There are clever ways around the regs. Steve makes no mention anywhere that he sells new stoves. Only replacement parts for old ones. You'll have to read between the lines here to understand. I'm not allowed to spell it out.Peter B. said:
Around here I have seen a lot of huge old smoke dragons and very, very few modern stoves. Like wkpoor said in farm country stuff does not get replaced unless it is beyond repair. Most of the houses around here look the same as the day they were built inside and out, a coat of paint is considered a major remodel to many.
Personally I like a big firebox that is why I went with the Osburn. My old cat Grizzly insert had a big firebox and I loved that about it and that is about the only thing I liked about it.
Personally I like a big firebox that is why I went with the Osburn. My old cat Grizzly insert had a big firebox and I loved that about it and that is about the only thing I liked about it.
BrotherBart said:
That's good, I'm a big fan of making money. I just found it odd that you bought the stoves and then went looking for info.
BrotherBart said:
I've said the samething, I'm the only one I know if besides 1 other with modern stove. Several family members heat with wood, and every last one of them is from the 70's or 80's maybe some older. Only reason I know of the 1 is because dad finally replaced his old Vigillant thats been in the family since around '83. Most of em would dream of replacing thier old reliable stoves, especially at a cost of 2-3g's.
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