Windows 7 loses support soon

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
5,026
Northern NH
I have a windows 7 machine that I didnt upgrade to Windows 10 several years ago as the early Windows 10 had a reputation of being real buggy. Microsoft offered a free upgrade and threatened that the upgrade would no longer be free after a certain date. I read recently that Microsoft is stopping support of Windows 7 in a few weeks which means it doesnt get any more updates and thus is vulnerable to new hacks. I also read that despite Microsoft saying that the upgrade was no longer free that the process still works. I tried it today on my computer and if went through the upgrade and is now running on Windows 10. I use 10 on my work computer so have gotten use to its quirks.

I obviously backed up the disk and my files before making the upgrade. It took a couple of hours for the upgrade. The only glitch so far is it did not recognize my Office applications so I had to log in to switch them to the new OS.
 
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firefighterjake

Minister of Fire
Jul 22, 2008
19,044
Unity/Bangor, Maine
You have no idea how appreciative I am that you posted this Peakbagger. A few weeks back when I learned support for Windows 7 was being discontinued I figured I would have to either pony up the money for Windows 10 or buy a new computer . . . I installed Windows 10 last night free of charge with no issues. Thanks again.
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
5,026
Northern NH
Your welcome. Here is the link to the article I had read that describes the process for anyone else with legit Windows 7 license

I am no computer geek so if I figured it out, it wasn't that hard. I have heard that if you have a low performance computer that the windows 10 upgrade can be quite pokey and if you have special applications that the process may not be painless. My household PC is an out of box Dell with mid range processer with mostly just a web browser and some Microsoft office applications so its pretty much a "Plain Jane".

The standard warning is backup all the files in advance of an upgrade and make a new system repair disk afterwards. My CD drive is toast so I need to figure out a way of getting a bootable repair disk but that's another days issue.

BTW Windows 10 does need customizing and Microsoft sets it up so it tends to default to Microsoft applications like Microsoft Edge for a browser and Bing as search engine. Bing is a crappy search engine compared to Google. Duck Duck Go is a nice option that doesn't track you but I find its not as good as google search.
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
5,026
Northern NH
So is the US government, they are paying Microsoft a lot of money to keep supporting XP as there are many military applications that were designed for XP.
 

tadmaz

Feeling the Heat
Dec 21, 2017
386
Erin, WI
I'm an IT professional and most of my stuff at home is Windows 7. I shrug my shoulders, I don't need updates. At work it's a different story, life and death to keep things updated.
 

maple1

Minister of Fire
Sep 15, 2011
10,354
Nova Scotia
So is the US government, they are paying Microsoft a lot of money to keep supporting XP as there are many military applications that were designed for XP.
I'm not sure if it's good or bad but that makes me feel a little bit better. ::P
 

semipro

Minister of Fire
Jan 12, 2009
3,704
SW Virginia
Most people would probably be amazed the amount of legacy systems that are still in use and being supported - everything from air traffic control, to space shuttle programming (not that they'e still in use), vehicle traffic operations systems, etc. We also didn't adequately anticipate the number of IP addresses that would be needed for the Internet. Many admins are dealing with switching from IPV4 to IPV6 IP standards. In many cases those designing the systems never anticipated that they would be in use for so long -- one of the primary reasons for the Y2K problems.
 

semipro

Minister of Fire
Jan 12, 2009
3,704
SW Virginia
BTW Windows 10 does need customizing and Microsoft sets it up so it tends to default to Microsoft applications like Microsoft Edge for a browser and Bing as search engine.
Don't be alarmed at the look of Windows 10 when you first see it after upgrading. Its been a while since I've done an upgrade but IIRC the default design better serves touch screens and such and may look daunting.
Its a relatively easy process to reconfigure it to look like Windows 7 with the "start" button, task bar, and such.
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
5,026
Northern NH
If its a legacy system and not connected to the internet, I would not be as worried. I run into these systems frequently. Of course Stuxnet and its variants was designed to infiltrate closed systems via viruses hidden away on USB sticks and some of these infected sticks were even showing up in new product. The bigger concern is computers hooked to the internet, there are always folks trolling the internet looking for random vulnerabilities and folks who stash self executing viruses on popular websites. I used to get ransonware off of Yahoo occasionally. It was the easy to clean up stuff by killing the application but a couple of times while at work looking for technical info I got nailed by some nasty ones despite our corporate virus checker. Thats why I backed up my PC on separate disk every week and before every trip and backed it up to third external drive every couple of months.

The problem with vulnerable legacy systems is that software can be downloaded into the machine without the owner knowing. That is how a bot army gets built, the hackers just load up a bunch on unsuspecting computers and then dispatch them when they need or want to. That is why the normal fix is figure out where the control servers are and block them so the bot computers never get called. The risk is pretty low if someone only casually uses the computer and turns it off when the are not using it but computers that are one 24/7 unattended like those supporting webcams are perfect for being a bot.
 

festerw

Feeling the Heat
Nov 16, 2009
374
Cambridge Springs, PA
Don't be alarmed at the look of Windows 10 when you first see it after upgrading. Its been a while since I've done an upgrade but IIRC the default design better serves touch screens and such and may look daunting.
Its a relatively easy process to reconfigure it to look like Windows 7 with the "start" button, task bar, and such.
That was Windows 8. 10 is kind of a hybrid between 7 and 8.
10 is a lot more user friendly on a PC than 8 was.
 

semipro

Minister of Fire
Jan 12, 2009
3,704
SW Virginia
That was Windows 8. 10 is kind of a hybrid between 7 and 8.
10 is a lot more user friendly on a PC than 8 was.
10 still looks and acts quite differently than 7 but you're correct, I was thinking of the conversion to 8.
I've been using 10 at work and home for years now and really like it.
The jump from 7 to 10 can still be somewhat disorienting so those doing it may want to look into some configuration tricks like those here and elsewhere: https://www.howtogeek.com/277448/how-to-make-windows-10-look-and-act-more-like-windows-7/
 

Easy Livin’ 3000

Minister of Fire
Dec 23, 2015
2,627
SEPA
I have a windows 7 machine that I didnt upgrade to Windows 10 several years ago as the early Windows 10 had a reputation of being real buggy. Microsoft offered a free upgrade and threatened that the upgrade would no longer be free after a certain date. I read recently that Microsoft is stopping support of Windows 7 in a few weeks which means it doesnt get any more updates and thus is vulnerable to new hacks. I also read that despite Microsoft saying that the upgrade was no longer free that the process still works. I tried it today on my computer and if went through the upgrade and is now running on Windows 10. I use 10 on my work computer so have gotten use to its quirks.

I obviously backed up the disk and my files before making the upgrade. It took a couple of hours for the upgrade. The only glitch so far is it did not recognize my Office applications so I had to log in to switch them to the new OS.
I did the same thing, for both sets of parents. Worked great.

Google: free windows 10 upgrade
 

lml999

Feeling the Heat
Oct 25, 2013
497
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
I'm an IT professional and most of my stuff at home is Windows 7. I shrug my shoulders, I don't need updates. At work it's a different story, life and death to keep things updated.
If I have personal data, tax information, family photos, etc on a machine at home, I want the latest security. I also run a Cisco Small Business Router behind my cable modem.
 

Touch0Gray

Member
Feb 8, 2020
66
Wi
A couple of years ago (after win7 was released) my daughter called me and asked how to install drivers in DOS! To date, she still uses DOS, 98, xp, 7, 10, a couple of Mac, Unix, Linux, iPad and several versions of Android at work.

My 7 to 10 upgrade was not without problems, 10 did not contain drivers for either of my video cards. I found ones that worked though, critical because I need multiple high resolution monitors.
 

zrock

Minister of Fire
Dec 2, 2017
806
bc
well interesting maby now we can upgrade our work computers... Some of the features in the new software need win 10 and someone was sleeping on the upgrade button
 

Dataman

Minister of Fire
Sep 10, 2018
659
Newport, Wa
I build 2 news computers and used my product key from Win 7 Pro for new ones. Works just fine. Old ones I reload Win10 and will give away (7 years old). Some things I like about Win10 and others I don't. But it seems faster loading to Desktop. About 5 seconds with PCIe 4 M2 Drive and 64g ram on Ryzen 7 3800x (3.9g-4.5g). https://www.howtogeek.com/266072/you-can-still-get-windows-10-for-free-with-a-windows-7-8-or-8.1-key/ Had to enable SMB File Sharing to get the 3 machines in our house to share files. https://appuals.com/fix-cant-see-other-computers-on-network/