Wittus or xeeos Twinfire

[fjord]

fjord, you seem to think that everyone else has the same heating needs that you do.

I own and use a stove every day in the heating season that is much like these stoves. I could care less what "most" woodburners want. It fits my needs, and better than anything else I've used in that space. Apparently it doesn't fit any of yours, so I wonder what is the basis for your interest in this topic, except to lend your unexperienced opinion to it.

If you examine how the Twinfire works, compared to more common stove geometries, you would see that there is good basis for their test results of 93%.

Very pretty appliances precaud. Lovely in fact.

BUTT: "93% efficiency" for a wood stove ????? Science is verifiable, repeatable, basic, transparent. Not on the site.

Doesn't everyone heat the same ? :roll:

 

[jotulguy]

One point of interest to throw in here, on the European type stoves. I was personally involved in a scan vs jotul burn time challenge. The scan 5-2(no longer available) vs the F-500 oslo. I was shocked with less fuel in the firebox the little 5-2 had the same burn time as the almost 2x's the size F-500 oslo. The reason? The skamol liner in the scan reflects so much heat back in the box keeping the fire hotter you are able to turn the air down about 20% further then the oslo. That being said it becomes a low BTU output to get that burn time...... but a soft constant heat is a good heat!

 

[precaud]

Sorry jotulguy, but the opinions of nonusers has more weight than real-world testimony... the vertical-firebox stoves are impractical toys.

Cough.

 

[begreen]

If this country lived in smaller spaces and insulated like they do Europe and Japan, big furnaces and wood stoves would become the impractical beasts. For now, we are heating big leaky boxes and will continue to until it gets impractical due to expense.

 

[vvvv]

way i figure it is= dump 5K$ + & the guy heating the non-ghetto aint gonna wanna carry more than 4lbs of wood anyway

 

[denjohn]

OP here, my friends appreciate most of the replies.
They just bought a Hase Tula, apparently got a good deal as the dealer had been shipped an extra by mistake, and the supplier was offering a good discount.
Thanks

 

[precaud]

It is attractive, but compared to the Twinfire, pretty pedestrian, and has 30% lower heat output. Hope they noticed that...

 

[precaud]

If this country lived in smaller spaces and insulated like they do Europe and Japan, big furnaces and wood stoves would become the impractical beasts. For now, we are heating big leaky boxes and will continue to until it gets impractical due to expense.

That is the truth. And nat gas below $4/therm isn't helping provide any motivation on that front...

 

[precaud]

Here's a UK-produced video demonstrating the modern-style stoves, showing a Tula and a Twinfire in operation. With two stoves burning in the showroom, the man is quite sensibly in short sleeves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yTvZBsGvgE

I find the small amount of ash he claims was produced in 6 days of operation to be beyond belief.

These are pretty cool too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIXYMXdVzuE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmSHUII1xzA

And this interview (in German) with the Twinfire designer qualifies as an infomercial...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfyZhCy_4OE