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There is buzz in Vermont, where fuel oil is predominant, incomes are often low, cold climate and a lot of poorly insulated very old houses. “We have to use something besides oil.” Cheap oil (and mostly no natural gas lines) established the big-oil-burner-in-leaky-house trend over decades. This is now going to hurt, a lot. Lots of people already couldn’t afford to heat their houses at $3.60/gallon oil
Wood burning here is an old and established (if often poorly done) tradition. Probably lots of old stoves come out of the barn and back into service, but those who can afford it and want to step up their wood game or start burning will get new stoves. I predict a surge in demand for wood stoves, but who knows. I’m often wrong. Budget for a new stove will also compete with filling the car or truck with gas or diesel in this period, so many may not have the budget for anything new.
Supply/demand probably means used stoves are grabbed off the market, and new stoves meet supply/demand crunch. And of course this is not just a Vermont issue, but national and global.
This article doesn’t mention firewood burning at all, which is a bit weird considering we are the largest per-capita wood burning state already:
vtdigger.org
Wood burning here is an old and established (if often poorly done) tradition. Probably lots of old stoves come out of the barn and back into service, but those who can afford it and want to step up their wood game or start burning will get new stoves. I predict a surge in demand for wood stoves, but who knows. I’m often wrong. Budget for a new stove will also compete with filling the car or truck with gas or diesel in this period, so many may not have the budget for anything new.
Supply/demand probably means used stoves are grabbed off the market, and new stoves meet supply/demand crunch. And of course this is not just a Vermont issue, but national and global.
This article doesn’t mention firewood burning at all, which is a bit weird considering we are the largest per-capita wood burning state already:
After a long, cold winter, energy costs are soaring. Some Vermonters are reevaluating their options. - VTDigger
“I'm on quite a restricted budget,” said one Vermonter who planned to switch away from oil heating. “I'm really, really worried about where things are right now.”
vtdigger.org
Hearth products in general have gone up pretty steadily over the last few years.
There is buzz in Vermont, where fuel oil is predominant, incomes are often low, cold climate and a lot of poorly insulated very old houses. “We have to use something besides oil.” Cheap oil (and mostly no natural gas lines) established the big-oil-burner-in-leaky-house trend over decades. This is now going to hurt, a lot. Lots of people already couldn’t afford to heat their houses at $3.60/gallon oil
Wood burning here is an old and established (if often poorly done) tradition. Probably lots of old stoves come out of the barn and back into service, but those who can afford it and want to step up their wood game or start burning will get new stoves. I predict a surge in demand for wood stoves, but who knows. I’m often wrong. Budget for a new stove will also compete with filling the car or truck with gas or diesel in this period, so many may not have the budget for anything new.
Supply/demand probably means used stoves are grabbed off the market, and new stoves meet supply/demand crunch. And of course this is not just a Vermont issue, but national and global.
This article doesn’t mention firewood burning at all, which is a bit weird considering we are the largest per-capita wood burning state already:
After a long, cold winter, energy costs are soaring. Some Vermonters are reevaluating their options. - VTDigger
“I'm on quite a restricted budget,” said one Vermonter who planned to switch away from oil heating. “I'm really, really worried about where things are right now.”
Situations like that are better off putting that money into insulation and air sealing.
True enough. I 100% agree, as a first step.
I’m in a 150+ year old house, lots of houses here are old like this. We did about all the sealing insulating we could short of rebuilding the place the first winter after we moved in when we saw what we had. It made a HUGE difference. But in the last 18 years I’ve mostly tried to get by in our main living space, 28 x 28, with not enough heat. We had a Jotul 3CB, a 15k mini split, oil baseboard all around, but not enough to keep the room warm even after our insulating. All or some of those running together could do it in the coldest Vermont weather, but we were chilly a lot. I’m all for throwing as little heat as possible in as well insulated a space as can be (lived in a superinsulated small house for many years.). But then there is the reality that an ancient building will still need a lot of heat. Progress hybrid in here, and it’s really the first time we’ve been truly warm in really cold weather.
Here there’s also a lot of entrenched culture and attitude. “A house needs to breathe” — I’ve heard that a lot from old timers. Usually people just want to throw more heat at it. The state of Vermont is probably pretty high on the scale of the state trying to encourage, educate, incentivize insulation. Still, they’ve got an uphill battle overall.
I've been seeing a number of decent used stoves here in NJ on marketplace. Some for very fair prices. Just got to keep looking and good chance those willing to search will be able to find something reasonable. Of course it's the off season now so is a good time to buy with less competition. Waiting till fall and u risk shopping during strong demand for both new and used markets.
"The house needs to breath" is not BS. Of course there is the trade off between heat loss/heat gain and rotting siding, beams, sill plates and possibly increased mold and radon levels. Among many other issues.
Air sealing, vapor barriers, and insulation is much trickier than people think.
As an example: You build a super insulated where it's almost always more efficient to keep the windows always closed. So now u need to add air to air heat exchangers and in many locations radon mitigation systems. If you don't have or continuously run those, you will live in a radon filled stale air environment
Or you can use just open windows for many days during the year.
I try to have windows open as much as possible in my house and especially the basement. This can become a trade off between added humidity (hot humid summers) for lower radon levels and fresher air. Closed windows means increased radon levels and often running the dehumidifier which uses a good bit of energy.
My neighbors never open their windows and their AC is always running, even when the outside air is cool and dry.
Air sealing, vapor barriers, and insulation is much trickier than people think.
As an example: You build a super insulated where it's almost always more efficient to keep the windows always closed. So now u need to add air to air heat exchangers and in many locations radon mitigation systems. If you don't have or continuously run those, you will live in a radon filled stale air environment
Or you can use just open windows for many days during the year.
I try to have windows open as much as possible in my house and especially the basement. This can become a trade off between added humidity (hot humid summers) for lower radon levels and fresher air. Closed windows means increased radon levels and often running the dehumidifier which uses a good bit of energy.
My neighbors never open their windows and their AC is always running, even when the outside air is cool and dry.
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