Woodstocks new stove

[Huntindog1]

For some, looks are less important than price point/BTU output/efficiency. If the "industrial" look drops the price point to the degree that I can upgrade from my Fireview, I don't really care what it looks like, as long as its a) a Woodstock and b) it works. My Fireview isn't enough to heat my old drafty house once temps get into the teens or below, and I can't afford to upgrade to the PH.

I was getting ready to say the same thing but you said it just fine.

We dont really need a stove thats like 1% better in efficiency. There are stoves in Europe that burn at higher efficiencies than US designed stoves. We need to get into the upper 80's low 90's efficiency , heck this is the year 2013. You ought to see what we do with diesel engines these days as I work in research and development for a diesel engine company. Alot of secret sauce in those diesel engines.

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Dennis, are they planning on an insert any time in the future? I could sell my wife on something from Woodstock a lot easier than most other stoves.

No plans in the works at this time as far as I know. I remember talking to Tom about this but unfortunately as I age, my memory banks sometimes stop working...

 

[Bub381]

We're you paid to forget Dennis? j/k

 

[Backwoods Savage]

We're you paid to forget Dennis? j/k

Wouldn't it be nice to get paid?! Maybe we could go in together on a project Bub?

 

[rideau]

IMO that is, This new Union stove is to my likes alot, If you have never used a big front load door w/ north south loading, you probably don't know why I miss this more than anything using the PH vs the Summit. Again IMO that is one of the best features to a stove only second to its performance. I never owned stove gloves with the front loader !
Why this is IMO - The other half will not touch the PH now since she scared her arm on the small side door opening, now I half to come home straight after work always, burning 24-7 and leave on a planed basis. She wants the big front loader back with the performance of the PH and keep all the Qualitys that Woodstock is beyond great about (talk about wants)
She thinks we should send the PH back (she remembered the 6 month thing) and get something with the big front door NS loadable if I want her at times to tend to the stove.
3.3 cb. ft. big front door, cat, Woodstock made AND performance AND backed. She might win this time.

Always something, Todd2

If you are still within your six months, call Woodstock and talk with them about the issues. Maybe you can work something out, exchanging the PH for the new stove when it comes out.

 

[HollowHill]

IMO that is, This new Union stove is to my likes alot, If you have never used a big front load door w/ north south loading, you probably don't know why I miss this more than anything using the PH vs the Summit. Again IMO that is one of the best features to a stove only second to its performance. I never owned stove gloves with the front loader !
Why this is IMO - The other half will not touch the PH now since she scared her arm on the small side door opening, now I half to come home straight after work always, burning 24-7 and leave on a planed basis. She wants the big front loader back with the performance of the PH and keep all the Qualitys that Woodstock is beyond great about (talk about wants)
She thinks we should send the PH back (she remembered the 6 month thing) and get something with the big front door NS loadable if I want her at times to tend to the stove.
3.3 cb. ft. big front door, cat, Woodstock made AND performance AND backed. She might win this time.

Always something, Todd2

I did that several times last year, Todd2. This year I got myself some looooonnnnng stove gloves. They work a treat. Get your wife some, lot cheaper than a new stove!

 

[Bub381]

Ya never know.

 

[charly]

IMO that is, This new Union stove is to my likes alot, If you have never used a big front load door w/ north south loading, you probably don't know why I miss this more than anything using the PH vs the Summit. Again IMO that is one of the best features to a stove only second to its performance. I never owned stove gloves with the front loader !
Why this is IMO - The other half will not touch the PH now since she scared her arm on the small side door opening, now I half to come home straight after work always, burning 24-7 and leave on a planed basis. She wants the big front loader back with the performance of the PH and keep all the Qualitys that Woodstock is beyond great about (talk about wants)
She thinks we should send the PH back (she remembered the 6 month thing) and get something with the big front door NS loadable if I want her at times to tend to the stove.
3.3 cb. ft. big front door, cat, Woodstock made AND performance AND backed. She might win this time.

Always something, Todd2

Keep honey around for a burn, applied right away stops a blister and the burning,,,I healed a 3rd degree welding burn, slag got down in my boot along side my ankle,,, healed no problem,, yes there's a scar on that one Pure lavender oil works as well.. I use Young Living oils.

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Keep honey around for a burn, applied right away stops a blister and the burning,,,I healed a 3rd degree welding burn, slag got down in my boot along side my ankle,,, healed no problem,, yes there's a scar on that one

Or Vitamin E.

 

[Todd 2]

I did that several times last year, Todd2. This year I got myself some looooonnnnng stove gloves. They work a treat. Get your wife some, lot cheaper than a new stove!

I bought a pair of the arm pit length kind (on her) and she is still pretty gun shy, I get the "I'd rather not mess with it"
I think its it her excuse to keep me home more,lol
All things considered I think the saying goes once bitten twice shy.
she likes the heat but gives the stove the evil eye now - better it than me

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Todd, it just sounds like more TLC is needed there!

 

[Machria]

Did any of you notice THIS at the bottom of that?? It says they are ALSO working on something else very efficient.... !
http://woodstocksoapstoneco.blogspot.com/2012/09/coming-soonmore-high-efficiency-stove.html

The automatic A/F control sounds awesome. Maybe after perfected, they could come up with a retrofit for the PH's? That would be the bomb!

Regarding the leg height, another reason for the high legs like on the PH in addtion to hearth clearances, could be a large ash pan like on the PH. I LOVE the big ash pan I have on the PH. I empty it about once a week, and it has yet to actually be full when I emptied it.


Todd 2,
I'm wondering what kind of fire you guys are reaching into? When I load my stove, there is ussually very little left in it to worry about getting burnt from. I guess you could hit the side of the door opening or something,..? But, your not reaching in and loading a raging fire, are you? I simply slide a few splits in after raking all the hot coals to the forward 1/2 of the stove. I slide a large split onto the grate in the back, and another in the front on the hot coals, then slide the rest of my load onto those. My hands is rarely more than 3 or 4 inches into the doorway.

 

[Todd 2]

Machria,
Normal reload when down to hot coals, we fill it when temps drop burning 24-7 so the door rim stays hot (thats what got her) Also my wood is cut 16-17" for the old stove so you half to reach in a little further to make sure you have it centered so the glass protector arms work with a full load.
Should have thought to get the long gloves sooner, I think in do time she will be ok with it.

Todd2

 

[Bub381]

Ugly! Looks like 1 of those Home Depot cheapos.

 

[blades]

Beauty is in the wallet of the owner

 

[begreen]

My wife is not fond of the look of soapstone stoves. The PH or Keystone is about as close as she would tolerate. The current design of the Union is too extreme for her tastes too. I hope they're not limiting their sales by the eccentric design.

 

[charly]

My wife is not fond of the look of soapstone stoves. The PH or Keystone is about as close as she would tolerate. The current design of the Union is too extreme for her tastes too. I hope they're not limiting their sales by the eccentric design.

I think Woodstock's new stove will sell very well... A lot of folks wanted to own one of their stoves but needed a front loader for their installation ... I think if they were that worried about sales they would have made the Progress Hybrid a front loader.. I think their service , warrantee and their very reasonable stove part prices, is what sells their stoves,, plus your dealing with the stove builder direct when ever you call... All things in favor of the new stove owner who just shelled out his hard earned money... Too me they seemed to be very comfortable with what ever they build... I'm sure they're not going to spend all this time and money to build a flop! I think they are going to surprise everyone one with a very nice stove with some unique features..

 

[begreen]

You put a big hunk of anything in the living room and it should look good. It's too big an item to hide for the 6-8 months it's doing nothing. The more eccentric the look the narrower the market.

 

[Machria]

I don't get it??? Whats wrong with clamps???

 

[Backwoods Savage]

You put a big hunk of anything in the living room and it should look good. It's too big an item to hide for the 6-8 months it's doing nothing. The more eccentric the look the narrower the market.

You are correct that at times this could have a narrowing of the market. However, I think when you see the finished product you very will will change your mind.

 

[BrianK]

However, I think when you see the finished product you very will will change your mind.

Do you have any spy photos you can share?

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Sorry, but no. Woodstock will show all of us when it is time.

 

[raybonz]

Do you have any spy photos you can share?

LOL I really want to run with that one

Ray

 

[Stax]

Sorry, but that thing is just plain ugly.

 

[KaptJaq]

Sorry, but that thing is just plain ugly.

I think the design of the outer shell is still in transition. There are a couple of versions around the web including:

I like this version better: