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Are the Hamer Hot Ones pellets worth the extra $?

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by briggsy13, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. briggsy13

    briggsy13 Member

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    I didn't think we had many choices when it came to pellets. But a local hardware store (family owned) had Hamer's for $257 a ton. The local box stores have Cheat River for $197. I am just skeptical that the extra money is worth it. It seems like a pretty big difference.

    What are your thoughts?

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  2. imacman

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    The only problem in this situation is that the Cheat River pellets have not been burned by anyone yet. They could be great, or they might not.

    Tough decision given the big difference in price. Normally we recommend buying a few bags to test burn. If you buy the Cheats, and you find out they burn like crap when it's cold out, you might regret your decision.

    IMO, try searching for other brands. Have you tried Tractor Supply?
  3. briggsy13

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    We can buy some bags first to see how they burn. My husband is going to be gone for 3 weeks and as long as we have enough to get me through in case its cold. THen I guess we can decide. I feel this need to stock up on pellets now in fear the prices will go crazy. SHould I not feel that way? Like is there a certain time to stock up by?
  4. imacman

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    If you need pellets to get you through the next 3 weeks, then buy about 5-6 bags of each and see how they burn....14 bags should be plenty this time of year in Maryland.

    I don't think you have to worry about getting pellets....the supply seems good.
  5. echos67

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    I bet I know what family owned bussiness your talking about.

    I have 2 Whitfield's, one at each end of the house and last year I only burned Hamer's, they will throw some great heat. I plan to restock this November with them again for this year. Right now I have the small Whitfield insert out of the fireplace and a Buck wood burning insert in so I am burning wood if needed, I will switch them around when it gets cold and I need the heat for 24hrs.

    I have an oil boiler for now until I switch over to a coal boiler, and with 2 Whitfields running on pellets instead of oil last year it cut my costs in half and the Hamer's were $234.00 then.
  6. Cozy Old Coot

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    What area of Maryland are you from???

    Here are some pellet prices from different sources in Md as of this past week:

    Store ------- Location ------- Phone# ------- Brand ------- Price per ton ------- How Stored
    Home Depot --- Glen Burnie, Md --- 410-553-9600 --- American Wood Fibers --- $197.oo --- Inside / lawn & garden area
    Lowe's --- Glen Burnie, Md --- 410-863-4535 --- Green Team --- $197.oo --- Outside / lawn & garden area
    Lowe's --- Glen Burnie, Md --- 410-863-4535 --- Presto Logs --- $197.oo --- Outside / lawn & garden area
    Lowe's --- Easton, Md --- 410-690-9016 --- Greenway --- $197.oo --- Outside / lawn & garden area
    Wood Floors Plus --- Glen Burnie, Md --- 410-410-636-9663 ---Power Pellets --- $189.oo --- Inside Warehouse
    Wood Floors Plus --- Glen Burnie, Md --- 410-410-636-9663 --- O'Malley --- $189.oo --- Inside Warehouse
    Wood Floors Plus --- Glen Burnie, Md --- 410-410-636-9663 --- Greenway --- $245.oo --- Inside Warehouse
    True Value --- Kent Island, Md --- 410-643-3500 --- Hammers Hot Ones --- $249.oo --- Outside under tarps
    Friel Lumber Co. --- Queenstown, Md --- 410-827-8811 --- Lignetics --- $249.oo --- Inside Warehouse

    I would NOT make a large purchase of any brand that I have not yet tested in my stove. Buy a few bags of whatever is available in your area and see how they burn in your stove.

    We used a infrared thermometer such as this one (http://www.lowes.com/pd_73790-56005...pl__0__s?Ntt=infrared thermometer&facetInfo;=) last year to see what the heat differences were between the brands we could get. We always took the readings from the same place on the stove, while keeping the unit at the same distance and angle for every reading taken.

    If you do a search of post by the author "j-takeman" you will find that he has already completed many test and composed two different listing's of his results for everyone.

    Sorry I didn't save the link to his testing results.
  7. briggsy13

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    Thanks for the info. We are on the Eastern Shore, by the beach.
  8. referee38

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    I paid 215.00 for Hamer's this year
  9. quickrch

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    I paid $229 for Hamer this year at Southern States. Then I found out Hamers were for sale at tractor supply for $10 less but they store outside. SS is about 10 miles closer so I figured it was a wash in fuel costs trailering them back to the house. I am burning a few bags now but can't really judge yet.
  10. richkorn

    richkorn Minister of Fire

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    Hamer's are made in W. VA so they will be cheaper down there. As soon as they cross the CT border they are priced like gold.
  11. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    In my reviews I have found that Hamers and its rebagged sister brands do have excellent heat. But there is a draw back, They also burn faster than other brands(length of burn is shorter).

    If you do your homework, You might find a brand that has comparably heat with a longer burn? Disregard if using a stat!
  12. richkorn

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    I have always burned the Hamer's from the Elkins plant and they are great - low fines, high heat and lowest ash of anything I've burned.

    I got two tons of the Mt. Hope Hamer's this time and the first bag I opened had a lot of fines and very gritty. I'll burn some tomorrow and see how they do. They look a lot different than the Elkins stuff.
  13. jtakeman

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    I have only been able to find the Elkins stuff. Elkins are ultra premium. What are the Mt. Hope Hamer’s?
  14. richkorn

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    Mt. Hope are listed on bag as "Premium" --> ash content <1%, fines<1%. Elkins ash content says <.5% and fines are the same <1%.

    Mt Hopes certainly have way more fines and than the Elkins. I'm hoping they don't clog my auger; I'll know tomorrow and post how they did in the Leyden.

    Oh, they were from B.T. Enterprises in Bristol.
  15. iron stove

    iron stove Feeling the Heat

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    Hmm, al Elkins here. M<aybe they shipped in from Mt Hope because of a shortage.
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    Since the OP lives in Maryland and its not getting real cold down there (had the pleasure to live around DC for a couple of years), you really dont need the Hamers to heat your house, go with the cheaper stuff and enjoy the savings...IMO
  17. kykel

    kykel Feeling the Heat

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    Iwould jump all over them if they were on long Island for 257 a ton. Any good pellets here are usually 300+
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    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    That's what I was thinking. I heard rumour's they also have fiber issues(like Turmans and Barefoots are having).
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    I got from BT during Spring buy sale. I was actually surprised they were Mt Hope. A little disappointed also.
  20. iron stove

    iron stove Feeling the Heat

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    Bought mine in April, from Primo pellet. They back haul their own pellets, and always said was Elkins when he picks them up. They have expanded to other brands, as the top tier pellets were tougher to get this year.
  21. jtakeman

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    Although not as bad as initially thought, But there is a fiber shortage going on. We need the building trades to get going or we could be in some trouble come spring! JIC, I'd be checking out the log to chip brands to get a feel how you stove likes them. I wouldn't want to get caught with my pants around my ankles! :red:
  22. iron stove

    iron stove Feeling the Heat

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    The "Log to Chip" brands, the better ones, would Be VT, who else ?
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    AFAIK, Geneva/Maine Choice, Power House/Great American, Michigan, VWP and MWP. Someone add if there are more.

    I also think we will see some of the others jump on board to pad their fiber supply.
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    What is a fiber issue

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