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Basement vs. Living room for wood insert?

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by emt1581, Jul 7, 2010.

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  1. emt1581

    emt1581 Minister of Fire

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    Yeah, we gotta do some homework on hearth designs after "we" decide which stove to get.

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  2. emt1581

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    As far as a layout, I didn't draw a pic but I did give a decent worded layout. If I can figure it out, I'll happily share a general layout. That's to be continued though...

    I won't skimp on quality in terms of buying a stove, but I'm not going to get obnoxiously expensive either. Again efficiency is the name of the game for us.

    If we can't use what's already there we're not putting anything additional in. No way I'm going to pay for another chimney and such. In that case we'd go with a basement insert/stove and just settle for heating the bedroom up before we hop in bed...

    Thanks!

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    http://stovesnstuff.com/woodstoves.html


    Unless a "Class A Chimney" is less than $1000 there's no way we can afford to do such a thing so again, we have to make do with what we have.

    -Emt1581
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    Hearthstone and Harman were the only two I saw that had soap stone models.

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    emt1581 Minister of Fire

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    Dixie Chicks...when they first came out I was in the 2nd row at one of their concerts.....

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    emt1581 Minister of Fire

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    Not a bad idea, I can ask at the stove shops. I'm sure they'll be able to point me in the right direction.

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    Harman? Maybe Woodstock. There are also some nice soapstone clad boxes out there including the Bakers Oven Woodstove whose ad is popping up above this thread. Morso & Rais also come to mind.
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    I will take a large bite out of any Harman soapstone stove you might point out to me.

    Harman does steel stoves. Like God intended stoves to be. With a few cast iron offerings thrown in for the elite.
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    Maybe we should back up and determine just what the budget is here for the basics - insert, liner, wood. Otherwise this is just summer speculation. Guestimate $400 for 2 cords of wood, $1500 for the liner, $2200 for the insert. When figuring the budget, can you wait until you get the tax credit to realize the full savings or is that too far out? The credit is on the whole installation.
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    Now I can't find them on the Harman website. I guess I've been mistaken. Shot in the dark though....I'm betting the soapstone models are among the most expensive....no?

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    What I've figured on pre-tax-credit is around $3500 for the stove and installation.

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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Yes, it does command a premium, especially compared to a steel stove or insert.
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    OK, you aren't far off. That is close.
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    Just in the brief homework I've done the price range seems to be $1500-$3000 for stoves. So I figured $3500 would be a good mid-point....plus I called the shop and asked the guy there.... ;)

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    That must be because St. Peter's front gate is made out of cast iron. :)
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    Oh no...that old one has long since been replaced by one made entirely of Unobtainium. %-P
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    And soapstone pillars.
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    Yes, quite right...Unobtainium and Unaffordium. I understand they're lovely. Don't expect I'll ever see them. :lol:
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    I like the steel stoves for the welded firebox. It would be nice to dress up the front with some cast iron or stone, but that's what my hearth/mantle is there to do. I like a lot of glass (which I know isn't great for combustion) so it feels like a fire. I always hear how soapstone and cast iron have a more even heat, but when I look at the specific heat of steel vs CI vs stone there really isn't much of a storage capacity compared to keeping the BTUs in the wood and controlling the fire through a nice tight firebox. If its about the looks then I agree, but I think the functional benefits were more of a factor before EPA rated stoves.
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    One thing I didn't think of until now is that a buddy of mine has a wood AND coal stove. No one really suggested them here so I'm guessing maybe there's a reason for avoiding them. He said with coal he can heat his whole home for $3 a day. Sounded like a cool idea to me.

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    Ahh ok, that makes sense. I'm in PA...not sure if that's considered coal country by most. Usually the mid south east is where I consider to be coal country. If you listen to Billy Joel's song Allentown he says "they've taken all the coal from the ground" and I'm guessing that has to be true because our steel factory is now a casino...

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    My home was heated with coal for many years. My Mom put the stoves in when she thought oil at $.12 a gallon was outrageous :gulp:

    You just answered your question :)
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    You want to heat a large house with wood only and also keep an esthetically apparently very fussy wife happy, you're going to have to spend bucks.
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