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Chimney liner question?

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by ecocavalier02, Dec 24, 2009.

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  1. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    If you can see a gap, the insulation will come through it. You need to fill it. Have you thought about using the Chamber- Tech cement that I suggested?

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  2. ecocavalier02

    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Well yes i can see a gap at the top. But i dont know about fifteen feet down. I really dont want to pull the liner out if. Dont have to. I mean conzidering my chimney is already for the most part internal will it make that much of a difference
  3. ecocavalier02

    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Alzo if i did make oval. What would that do to draft. I want the best i can Get. I know in heating and cooling we use it all the time and it makes no difference. Guess it really shouldnt do thamuch i guess. I still think ifi just pour it down it would be ok.
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  5. ecocavalier02

    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Thats not whAt i said!! I said making it oval. I know that.
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    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    My question again is should i just stuf rock wool down as much as i can and see how it works. Im just tryi g to monimize creosote build up to the max.
  7. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa Minister of Fire

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    Rock wool is not effective as insulation if you "Stuff" it. It needs to be loose to insulate. It's OK to stuff it in the bottom to keep poured insulation in only if you don't need insulation there for NFPA 211.
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    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Well i dont k ow what to do now it looks like anyway i go i will have take the liner out to do it the right way. If pour your suupse to have spacerswhich i don t have on. And if i wrap ill have oval it. This is why i ask the question if i just pourit down as is do uou think it will make a difference in mu setup. I am not worried about the fireproofing aspect as the chimney is in decent shape. Just looking for better resultswith creosote build up
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    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Sorry bout the bad spelling as i am on my phone.
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    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Ok if someone could answer the question. Is it really worth pulling out? Or should i just pour the stuff down and just call it a day
  11. Todd

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    If it were me I'd just try it without any insulation for a season and see what you get.
  12. ecocavalier02

    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    That might be an option i guess huh. I just wanted to do everythi g i should. But i think u might be right and just try it. Maybe just put some rockwool in there. I think thats the best answer ive gotten. Ill just se how it goes. I dont mind buying the pour and doing it. Its just iwanted to make sure that it wouldnt be an issue with not hqving the spacers. I dont think having the spacers will make a dramatic difference. I just wanted to make all the adjustments for the new stove. So whatever ill have to make a decision. Ill probably just pour it down for the heck of it. Not going to make a huge deal out of it.
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    If clearances aren't a concern and everything is in good shape, I'd build a block-off at the bottom, pour loose perlite to the top, and call it a day. The perlite finds its way all around if you shake the liner as you pour it in. It will go a long way towards improving your draft, making your chimney more safe, and reducing creosote.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Thank you very much. Thats what im doing and thats final!!!!! Lol ill do that and call it a day. Finally have my decision. Haha
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    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Im having trouble finding the perlite. Where can i get this stuff
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    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Well i went to the blaze king dealer today to see it in action. He said i shouldnt waist mytime on insulating. But im not all sold on that. I mght just try it a year and see what happens. What do u guys think? I dont want to cheap out.
  17. Shari

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    You already got the answer:

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  18. LLigetfa

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    It's not the answer he is shopping for.
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    Then I must be confused as I thought he was asking about insulating. Sorry.

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  20. LLigetfa

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    Sorry, that's not what I meant. He is shopping for a particular answer that he wants to hear. Eventually someone will come along that thinks like him and tell him what he wants to hear.
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    Then maybe he should go take a look at the photo here: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/48950/

    Shari
  22. k3c4forlife

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    I am going up against the same situation with the insert I want to install. Going to fight the flex flue through with the insulation. Not worth losing the house over fighting with the liner for a few hours...
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    Same situation here. In our case, we will not jeopardize our home for any savings (on insulation or installation). No, we don't have our stove installed yet but our piggy bank is building from, of all things, something I personally helped 5 of our neighbors with. Maybe we won't get our stove installed this season but when it goes in it will go in right (insulated ss liner, block-off plate, etc.) so when the stove is stoked at night I can sleep peacefully. We lost a beloved family member in a house fire (not stove related) and I will take all precautionary steps installing our stove.

    Shari
  24. ecocavalier02

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    YeH so i guess the insulation is primarily for safety reasons. I wasng in the first place even doing it for the safety reasons. Iwas just doing it for performance reasons crosote build up and sttuff like that. But like yhe deAler said the cat should tKe care of that. So im going to try it without for a year. I was actuAlly just standing in my chimney working on it. And it wasnt even cold in there. I think it stays pretty warm in the chimney as its for the most part internal
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    ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

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    Well i really still want to insulate just for the heck of it. And i would like to go with the perlite, but i cannot seem to find it online. Is this a dry pour? any help would be great.
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