I recently helped a friend install a used englander 30 in his home. Ive told him for a few years now how much i enjoyed heating with wood and he has plenty of family with wood burning stoves and plenty of experience cutting firewod for them and likes cutting wood almost as much as i do. So finally after much pestering his wife he found a used stove $300 i was pissed at him for that. He had been giving me a hard time lately about how his secondaries are awesome and all that. on my way home from work tonight I passed his house and noticed his 30 just pumping smoke out the stack. Wish i could have taken a picture . I know hes been in bed for a few hours and it isnt just a reload. Just wanted to call out that the new ones do it too. Maybe more than my big fish under the right conditions. So HA HA HA Sucker.