Pacific Energy Super 27 vs. Lopi Endeavor

isipwater Posted By isipwater, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:59 PM

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  1. WoodMan33

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  2. Sprinter

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    I'll +1 that. I liked that stove too when I was looking. It doesn't get too much play on the forum because it's pretty new but it's worth considering for sure.
     
  3. Grisu

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    If I see that correctly it needs a rear clearance of 12-3/8. The OP is looking for something with tight clearances. Nice stove though.
     
  4. Sprinter

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    I think that's for single wall stovepipe. For double wall, it's 6-3/8.
     
  5. Grisu

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    I stand corrected. ;em (Still favor the PE. ;) )
     
  6. begreen

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    Nice looking stove. It's made locally. What's the 230 and 300 selling for?
     
  7. Sprinter

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    As I recall, it (the 230) was in the same range as the Super27 and Lopi Endeavor. Maybe a hundred or so more.
     
  8. Seanm

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    I to love my PE stove which I had installed in October. If it was an option and I had to do it again I would get one without the ash clean out. There has been discussions around them leaking a bit. Once I heard this I packed mine with ash and didn't use it again.
     
  9. Seanm

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    Sprinter does yours have the ash clean out? and if so what have you experienced with it?
     
  10. Sprinter

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    I'll agree with the cleanout option. In my case that was the way it came as the Heritage model. It's not been a problem, but I only tried to use it once and found it to be pretty useless. Shoveling ash into a bucket (metal for safety!) is much better. The tray shouldn't be a problem, though, just not useful.
     
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    It came with our T6 as standard. I tried it a couple times and then stopped. It is pretty useless for our needs. If you have the option I would recommend skipping the ash pan option.
     
  12. Sprinter

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    I may be wrong, but I get the impression that the Heritage with the tray is a pretty standard configuration for the Super27 pedestal. I know I didn't order it that way, it just came that way.
     
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    The bypass is nice and will make a huge difference if you have even a marginal draft! If you have a tall well drafting chimney, you might not see much of an advantage. It's also nice to use upon start up of a new load of wood.

    The PE baffle does come out nice and is very well designed. The Lopi baffle is simple, very simple and effective. It comes apart easily too, in the event that you ever need too. With the bypass, there is no need to remove the baffle for cleaning. Open the bypass, sweep the flue and it all falls into the firebox. You can run a flexible broom back and forth on top of the baffle to get the flyash off of it. No sweat!
     
  14. Seanm

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    Yeah it could be a standard feature and sounded better in theory than in practice. I cant recall if I was given a choice. I used it a few times and filled it in. Seems just as easy if not easier to scoop it out with a little shovel.
     
  15. Sprinter

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    Good to know about the Lopi's system. My chimney system is only 13' in a mild climate, so I may have benefited from the bypass on the Lopi, but draft really hasn't been a problem even in the mild temps at least not that I was aware of.

    I just now finished cleaning my chimney and reinstalled the baffle. The baffle is a bit awkward to handle but not too bad. It's kind of clumsy to reinstall, but it will be easier next time:) (this was my first season).
     
  16. WoodMan33

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    When I was looking at wood stoves last year the PE Super 27 was my top choice, and was told the quality and construction of the Lennox Grandview 230 was sturdier, and what got me was the Thermal Fin Technology creates 32% percent surface heat then than a standard stove design. That is what swayed me but maybe he was just a good salesman and I was the sucker lol :)
     
  17. Sprinter

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    So you did get one? I was also taken with the fins, along with the large window. The fins probably do contribute to convection transfer, especially if a blower is used, but at the expense of some radiant transfer. Nevertheless, it seemed like a nice stove and I'm sure you'll be happy with it.
     
  18. aansorge

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    The 230 supposedly has up to 12 hour burn time and the Lennox 300 14 hrs. It would be interesting to see what customers are getting.
     
  19. Sprinter

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    That's right in line with the Super27 and some other 2+ cf stoves. I've never tried to get 12 hours in mine, but some people have. That's only going to happen under ideal conditions anyway.
     
  20. neumsky

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    I would go for the Jotul haha
     
  21. Sprinter

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    Nothing wrong with that either. Fact is, it's hard to find a really bad stove (there are a few...)
     
  22. isipwater

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    I had to google the WAF factor to understand. Very important factor. She is more in favor of a more modern/clean lines looking stove to match our 1950's ranch. I have been given the go ahead on the PE Super 27, PE Fusion, Avalon Spokane 1750, and the Lopi Endeavor. So, still no clear tie breaker yet.
     
  23. Grisu

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    For a modern looking stove I still prefer the Osburn Matrix. I remember you got the recommendation and the clearances should fit. Do you mind telling why you don't consider it anymore?
     
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    All good choices. I prefer the Endeavor over the 1750 personally. But you can save a lot of money with the same results is guess. I've always been impressed with the endeavor! We put in a lot of 1750's, and we never have any complaints.
     
  25. isipwater

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    Actually, this does seem like a nice stove and does meet my clearance needs. I love having more options, thank you. Wow, this is hard.
     
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