Pacific Energy Super 27 vs. Lopi Endeavor

isipwater Posted By isipwater, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:59 PM

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  1. isipwater

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    Actually, this does seem like a nice stove and does meet my clearance needs. I love having more options, thank you. Wow, this is hard.
     
  2. Sprinter

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    HeeHee. Tell me about it...
     
  3. Grisu

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    A pedestal is an option on the Endeavor.
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out. It could make a difference in making a decision.
     
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    For my install, I am anticipating a straight (no bends) double walled chimney that will exit the roof in a central location. I am hoping these factors will give me good draft, so maybe the Lopi bypass damper will not make much of a difference for me.
     
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    How tall will it be? If it's under 15', it can make a big difference.
     
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    Good question. We do like the looks of this stove. The two downsides are the price and the depth of the stove. The price starts around $2700, which is a bit more than the PE Fusion or the Endeavor. The overall depth of the stove is about 2 inches more than the Fusion and the Endeavor. Sure looks like a nice stove though.
     
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    Do you think the extra $500 for the Endeavor is worth it vs. the 1750?
     
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    Believe me, it's no PE Fusion. Theres no way it's worth more money than a Fusion!
     
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    To me it is. It's really based on looks only though.
     
  13. Sprinter

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    This baffle bypass issue is still a mystery to me. Lopi describes it as a positive design attribute, but I've also heard that the only reason that Lopi has a bypass on these models is that it's inherent design requires a bypass whereas other designs simply don't need it. My chimney is only 12' above the stove and I haven't experienced a draft problem with new starts.

    I can't seem to find any really objective information about it, but I'm inclined to think that it's unimportant and maybe just an unnecessary complication.
     
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    For the record, my chimney is 13 ft and I have no problems whatsoever with the draft in the Super. Sometimes I think it would be even better if I could dampen it down more. But I have to say that my installer right away pointed at the possibility of this being a problem. I decided to try it anyway and I am glad I did.
     
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    Some stoves are obviously designed differently. The bypass is definitely an asset though. It allows faster start ups without cracking the door, and it must have something to do with efficiency. I'm sure Travis Ind. wouldn't add it for no reason.
     
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    If I understand you correctly, the extra $500 for the Endeavor vs. the 1750 is more for looks than function? You see no added functional value for the Endeavor's bypass damper.

    Doesn't the Endeavor's bypass damper at least make it easier to clean the chimney vs the 1750?
     
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    :eek:
     
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    Yes, I see added value for the bypass. I love my bypass!
     
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    Bypass, shmypass... who needs that? (Proud PE owner.;lol;lol;lol)
     
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    Don't have one but a bypass has to be great for start-ups and reloads. So you don't end up singing "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes.".
     
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    I know, I know. No draft problems, though...:) So far...

    I should add that it's double wall pipe to the class A
     
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    Tom up in Bellingham got 16 hrs with the Spectrum (same firebox). Our next door neighbor has gotten 12 hrs without really trying.
     
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    It was the 12" rather than 12' I was referring to. Bad pun I guess.
     
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    Someday I'll try that. Get some high BTU wood and fill-er-up and crank 'er down. Is that about it? I don't really have a need for those kind of burn times any more, but it would be fun to try for it.
     
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    oops. Glad I wasn't designing the Hubble...
     
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