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Pellet install issues.

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by MommyOf4, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

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    Mommyof4,

    There are two ways to fasten that adapter to the stoves exhaust pipe with screws one is to use self taping screws and no pilot holes and the other is to drill a pilot hole and use sheet metal screws, these holes are made after you have the adapter on the exhaust pipe and sealed.

    In both cases you need to be certain that you put the screws on the single pipe portion of the adapter nearest to stove and that you seal the adapter to the exhaust pipe by applying a coat of sealant between the adapter and the exhaust pipe before you install the screws ( imacman provided a picture of how that should look) , as well as dab of sealant where you are going to place a screw. There is supposed to be three equally spaced screws installed around the adapter.

    The sealant provides a gas tight seal and the screws the mechanical fastening so the pipes can't pop apart or be inadvertently pulled apart.

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  2. SmokeyTheBear

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    Hey Pete the normal response to a leak that is inside the house is I smell smoke and when asked where is it coming from you get the I can't see it or I don't know.

    The normal response to smoke coming out of the exhaust vent outside is I see smoke when my stove starts up, should I be seeing smoke. The answer is yes it is very common to see smoke from the vent when the stove ignites.

    When it gets really cold you get there is a lot of smoke outside what is wrong questions. The answer is that is not smoke, it is condensing water vapor.

    Sorry but it is rare to find someone who sees the smoke unless they are looking directly at the leak and as we all know sometimes that takes several ignition cycles to actually see.
  3. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

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    Now for the rest of you budding code and safety police it is about time and congratulations you finally made it out of the academy.

    You are hereby promoted to the rank of smoke eradicators now go forth and help the folks with locating and eliminating the sources of the smelly stuff.

    Please add the following to your signatures:

    Graduate of the smoke eradicators academy class of Fall 2012.
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  4. Madfish

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    Here is a picture with a clean out "T" coming off the back of the stove. Also, I have pretty much the same set up as you have shown and I have not pipe support and find no need for one. Good luck with the contractors.

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  5. imacman

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    Great to hear. The safety of your family comes first.

    BTW, if you don't already have one, please also make sure you have a good quality CO detector in that room.
  6. SmokeyTheBear

    SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

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    imacman means CO detector.
  7. imacman

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    Yep, your install was so nice & clean, I had already given her the link to your stove thread back on post #35......wanted her to see what a good install looked like. ;)
  8. imacman

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    ooooops...thanks Smokey....fixed it.
  9. TheMightyMoe

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    They are lucky you don't sue them.

    A lot of BS.

    My condolences.
  10. smwilliamson

    smwilliamson Minister of Fire

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    WTF!!!

    No T on the inside, T backwards on the outside against the flow, seam buried inside the wall, venting under a deck, wall strap not needed but not anchored...this install is a mess and shameful and whoever did it should be reported and your builder better pick up the entire cost of NEW venting and the cost to reinstall all correctly. Use places like Angies List and Google Places to tell the facts and keep these clowns away from burning the next house down...seriously.
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  11. Brokenwing

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    Ok well good luck, and I hope your contractor hires someone that knows what there doing. At this point I would of demanded a qualifed installer from a pellet stove dealer.
  12. SmokeyTheBear

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    Can you think of anything else that could have been done incorrectly?

    I think Carl has relocated.
  13. MommyOf4

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    OK...I think the new guys got it right this time. Screws placed on the adapter and siliconed. The tee is placed inside and all the parts are straight. Also, no joints in the wall.

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  14. SmokeyTheBear

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    That's better, but I don't think it is exactly as it should be.

    I don't have the instructions for that vent system at hand, it would pay to look at the instructions for installing the vent pipe through the thimble.

    I don't believe there should be any sealant inside the house where the vent goes through the thimble only the outside has the sealant around the vent where it passes through the thimble.

    Perhaps Scott or someone who uses that particular venting will chime in.
  15. MommyOf4

    MommyOf4 Feeling the Heat

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    Is it a hazard issue or just asthetics issue?
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    Finally... Really don't think it would matter, others should be along for input....
  17. SmokeyTheBear

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    By the book with an exhaust system, always by the book.

    I don't have the instructions for that venting but with mine you don't put anything at all in the annulus on the inside of the house.
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    At least it is done, those guys need some lessons on sealent use. They should of used Black RTV high heat silicone, it would of looked a 100 percent better. Hey at least the pipe is installed correct now.
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    Would I be able to put the black over the red?
  20. imacman

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    Yes, but it might look weird. If it were me, I'd just use a utility knife and cut most of the interior red stuff off....doesn't have to be 100 gone, just most. Then go over it w/ the black Hi Temp. Use a wet finger to smooth it out.
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  21. smoke show

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    I'd just mask everthing off and give it a quick spray with black stove paint.(the entire interior venting).

    Of course using proper ventilation.
  22. imacman

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    Paint doesn't stick well to silicone, AFAIK.
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  23. smoke show

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    there ya go. bad idea.
  24. smwilliamson

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    Or have used clear from the beginning.
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    Carl has moved to Maryland!

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