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The Cape Cod is here

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by charger4406, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    The theory is, and it seems to be holding true, that the hybrid stoves can not be shut down as well as a straight cat stove can. For whatever reason.

    The Cape Cod is a 3 cu ft stove and webby is reporting usable heat of 12 hours. Done right, that isn't much different than a full load on the 30.

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  2. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    Yes, but done cleaner! Not that is my reason for the hybrid, but it's kinda cool!
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  3. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I don't care about cleaner. My chimney on the 30 is already smoke free and meets EPA standards. Give me longer burns.

    Now, that doesn't mean I would not buy a Cape Cod. Because, at some point I will upgrade all three chimneys to run the same stove in all three locations. 12 hours of usable heat is good and might meet my needs for future upgrades. But, a 3 cu ft cat stove, done right, should provide longer burns.
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    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    And it might if it's measured differently. I'm talking about usable heat. If it was tested by Blaze King or Hearthstone it might get 20 hr burns. Lopi seems to be more realistic on there published burn times. Ya my King got 40 hrs, but it would not heat my house in the winter on low. I'm sure the Cod would have a flicker of life left in it after 24 hrs, but that won't heat my house either.
    Every manufacturer tests their stoves differently, some some don't give real world burn times and some do.
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  5. raybonz

    raybonz Minister of Fire

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    If you get 40 hrs. from a load of wood you're getting very low BTU's but I think you know this BB.. I am happy with the T5 burn times and BTU's delivered into my home and not up the chimney..

    Ray
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  6. Rich L

    Rich L Minister of Fire

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    It sounds like the Cape Cod is doing a better job heating your home than the King ?Is it?What happen to the King and why ?
  7. Waulie

    Waulie Minister of Fire

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    This comes up over and over again. Efficiencies and firebox size being equal, the only "problem" with "only" getting 12 hours of useful heat is if you're overheating your house. If you're not overheating your house with a 12 hour burn, there is possible way that a 40 hour burn will keep you warm (again, all else equal).

    Edit: BTW, that's a sweet looking stove!
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  8. BrowningBAR

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    I understand. I just find it odd that I can get 12 hours of usable heat from the 30 and 12-16 hours of usable heat from the Defiant. I would think the Cape would offer longer periods of usable heat. I know for a fact that if the Defiant had a better cat system and I could consistently lock in the temps at 350 that stove would produce 14-16 hours of usable heat on a regular basis. But, VC's system is not great, so those results are note attainable in any form of consistency.
  9. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    No, the problem is that I can get 12 hours of heat from a standard non-cat stove of about equal size (T6, 30, Summit) while the more controllable hybrid stove (progress & Cape Cod) are providing the same burn times.

    As someone that likes cat stoves and will be buying three stoves in the future, once the VC stoves die on me, how can someone convince me that the hybrid stoves are worthwhile? I get the added cost of replacing the cat every so many years without the actual benefit of a cat stove.

    I think the Cape is awesome looking. And 12 hours of heat is great. It just isn't great for a cat stove.
  10. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    I sold the King because, well, that's kinda what I do. I'm always looking for the next great stove and I needed the money at the time.
    I added a flue in the center of the house in order to heat better. The King was in the Family room at the far end of the house.

    The King was a great heater. It was ugly, the fireview was ugly and the glass was always dirty. That being said, it was a great heater, the best at long burns. So is a furnace, it's also ugly.
    To me, looks mean a lot! I love watching the fire, wood is my only heat source and it needs to look good.
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    I got the sense after taking the factory tour last year that stove aesthetics, a strong hot burn and the look of the fire are the primary goals with the Travis Industries products. I do not believe industry leading burn times are their forte. That being said I am more than content with the 12+ hour burn times from my Endeavor.
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  12. raybonz

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    I fully agree with you.. When I bought the T5 I wanted to get an overnight burn so basically around 8 hrs. and I can go up to 12 hours and easily get 10 hrs.. Going more than this amount of time on a 2.0 cu. ft. firebox isn't going to provide lots of BTU's so I am satisfied with this performance..

    Ray
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  13. Rusnakes

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    Hi all--

    What is the standard price for a Cape Cod? Thinking of checking them out tomorrow. Found out the BG Princess is too big front to back for us to have in our stove room. (Damn the bad luck!!!)

    Does the price vary around the US like BKs do?
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    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    It probably varies some. Here they go for about $3,300 in new Iron and $4,200 in Enamel. They love their enamel!
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    Wow, that is an outrageous premium for enamel. Most stove companies charge $4-600. The Hearthstone Manchester for example is $450 more in enamel.
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    I too purchased a cape cod in oct of 2012 ;-) .... Super storm sandy had come just after I got it in the house, I had severe house damage including the previous metal flue on the house I just bought, it was an old dura system that was improperly installed & oversized for the cape cod , so I was able to replace it with a secure temp ashT 6" SS flue. The initial lighting took place on 12/14/12 .... A horrible day her in CT .... Sandy Hook incident , I was actually passed on the highways by numerous special agent vehicles etc , had no clue until turned off CD player and tuned into radio for news.... Anyway , m y wife and I love the stove!!!! I've been paranoid about chimney fires!!! I had a good sized one when I was a teenager at my parents house we were burning a Vermont castings vigilant at the time....I try to follow the Lopi guidelines and close the by pass once fire gets rolling, temp maybe at 200 or so, it will get up to 350-400 , then I choke down the lower air control to slowdown the burn rate.... I might drop 10-20 degrees but it will run consistent though.....yesterday while clearing snow from the blizzard , I found brown ash / soot / creosote on the snow!! Texted a friend of mine , whose been a serious burner for years said it was likely from some of the high winds combined with the snow / ice on cap & temp swings that likely knocked it loose.... Friend said to run bypass open until into burn zone of 300+ then close the bypass..... The Lopi guidelines do not indicate a temp to close by pass, I just did as instructed to close for normal operation..I am trying right now with decent burning fire and by pass open .... Always a learning curve......how far do you push the pins into the wood to check moisture? As it will increase the further you push in, ????
    Will post picture of stove shortly...
    The convection top is interesting.... In how it does not get super hot......We can't even get a poor to boil water! .... Hottest I've gotten stove is around 475 - maybe 500.
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    I agree with your friend about the wind knocking some junk down from the cap.
    When you use the moisture meter, you need to make sure it's a fresh split, and push the pins in as far as they will go without struggling. What MC reading are you getting?
    The top doesn't get too hot because of the air gap underneath it. Were are you taking your temperature reading? I put my thermometer right in front of the flue collar, that's the hottest spot. I can run mine up to 650, but it seems to cruise at about 500 on the top. Do you have the blower?

    I don't really pay too much attention to the temperature when closing the bypass. If the stove is loaded with coals when I re-load, I close the bypass right away. If I only have a few coals I wait a while longer. Wood quality will really determine when you close the by-pass.
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    Yes I do have the blower.... Forgot about this post from last year,,,, well at least I answered it !
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