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  1. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,834 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    Yeah, cars nowadays are way heavier than they used to be for safety.
    #51

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  2. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,255 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Taylor - that is somewhat the discussion I was pointing to. It can be a brain teaser.

    1956 Packard Caribbean Convertible = 6000 pounds. Huge V8 getting 18+ MPG.
  3. BoilerMan Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 16, 2012
    973 posts
    Northern Maine
    This is true, I did not mention CO2, we can emit more NOx but have less CO2. Back in the 80s CO2 was considered harmless, we had two and three way converters that made it, but now it's the evil buzz word. I'm just saying that we (not suggesting we do) can make "dirty" cars that have incredible mileage with current tech.

    Just food for thought...... I do enjoy these types of discussions
    TS
  4. woodgeek Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 27, 2008
    1,410 posts
    SE PA
    The catalytic converters still make CO2 out of VOC and CO. Hard to believe the amounts are that big, and it helps keep the ground level ozone down.

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