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Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Backwoods Savage, Feb 7, 2013.

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  1. rdust

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    This is true, don't think it's going to be nearly as ornate as their other stoves so it has my interest.
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  2. BrianK

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    For some, looks are less important than price point/BTU output/efficiency. If the "industrial" look drops the price point to the degree that I can upgrade from my Fireview, I don't really care what it looks like, as long as its a) a Woodstock and b) it works. My Fireview isn't enough to heat my old drafty house once temps get into the teens or below, and I can't afford to upgrade to the PH.
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  3. Joful

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    If you're running a 13, and considering a fireview, I suspect this 3.3 cu.ft. monster is not for you! :eek:
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  4. PapaDave

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    I don't remember the PH changing much during this same process.
    I'll watch closely, see what the price comes out to, compare to at least a couple others in the running, then make my decision.
    My choice to like/not like it, now or later, whether it changes or not.
  5. jeff_t

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    Well said. Maybe it will look better in person, like a BK. Too bad it's such a long drive to the dealer.

    Personally, I like the steel version sitting on the scale ;lol. Perhaps I would like to have the top welded on, but I suppose it makes for easy cat access.

    Either way, it's gonna raise the bar. If they have an intro price like they did with the PH, it would be a no-brainer for me.
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  6. BrowningBAR

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    There was an early photo of the Progress without the soapstone during testing.
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  7. PapaDave

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    I think Dennis has a mole in the Co. feeding him the inside scoop.;)
    Wait a minute....maybe Dennis is the mole.!!!
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    Frankenstöv!
    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/bk-and-lady-bk-go-to-woodstock.53374/




    Woodstock allows the buyer to choose the side for the door on their other stoves. My guess is that it will be the same with this stove.;)
  9. metalsped

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    "self-regulating air/fuel ratio" Is this akin to that alien technology bundled into the BK stuff?
  10. ddddddden

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    Nope. This is something completely different.
    Woodstock uses elfin magic™.
    ;lol
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  11. rdust

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    I have a feeling/hope it is going to be more than the bi-metallic t-stat used in the BK stove.(Wideband o2, EGT, room temp sensor,stove sensor etc) Not sure how much sophisticated tech I want it my stove but it's interesting to watch unfold with Englander and WS coming out with "new" tech soon.
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    "The Union Hybrid stove is also a materials hybrid, using steel, cast iron, and soapstone to build durability and thermal mass into an affordable final product. The styling of the Union Hybrid stove pays homage to American Industry and Manufacturing by incorporating an industrial design aesthetic."

    Yeah, the 'industrial' comment may be painting the wrong picture for some. If they want thermal mass, that means lots of cast iron and stone.

    It's too big for us though. We'll be soldiering on with the Fire(no)view. And I've still got the Keystone on ice. Trade-offs involved, but the Keystone can burn pretty long at low output...
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    Interesting, I'd also like to see all the other finalists stoves.
  14. rdust

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    A lot of stone and cast doesn't equal "affordable". I think it's going to be steel with stone and cast accents, I could be wrong though it surely wouldn't be the first or last time. :)
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  15. Todd 2

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    IMO that is, This new Union stove is to my likes alot, If you have never used a big front load door w/ north south loading, you probably don't know why I miss this more than anything using the PH vs the Summit. Again IMO that is one of the best features to a stove only second to its performance. I never owned stove gloves with the front loader !
    Why this is IMO - The other half will not touch the PH now since she scared her arm on the small side door opening, :( now I half to come home straight after work always, burning 24-7 and leave on a planed basis. She wants the big front loader back with the performance of the PH and keep all the Qualitys that Woodstock is beyond great about (talk about wants)
    She thinks we should send the PH back (she remembered the 6 month thing) and get something with the big front door NS loadable if I want her at times to tend to the stove.
    3.3 cb. ft. big front door, cat, Woodstock made AND performance AND backed. She might win this time.

    Always something, Todd2
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    My advice is to not wait. 1600 sq ft mostly suits the Fireview unless you have a really drafty house with little insulation. The size of the new firebox is pretty large for that size house.
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    Thanks for the reply. I noticed your sig showing the Fireview and your previous positive comments on it. If I might ask how big is your home? My home isn't drafty but during the real cold spells <20 *South Jersey* the far end of the house gets chilly. Two unused bedrooms have their doors closed. I'm curious as to the real heat it will put out when opened up a bit. Thanks
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    Between 1300-1400 sq ft for us. It used to be really drafty but we super insulated it. Really helped a lot too. For us, <20 is nothing but when we get down around zero, our far rooms used to get a bit chilly. Before we got the Fireview we used to close off part of the house and still had to use a heater in the bathroom before taking a shower. After installing the Fireview we no longer close off any of the house but zero or below sometimes we'd set a small fan in the hallway blowing toward the stove room and this would heat up the far rooms quickly. Since insulating, we no longer have used the fan. Was below zero last night. Temperature in the stove room was 75 this morning. There is not much temperature difference between rooms now either so the far rooms were warm.


    fwiw, all through fall and early winter, until we got below 15 degrees at night, 3-4 splits were all that was needed to keep us warm. I might add, if you have not seen many of my posts, we generally keep our house >80. I just looked and it is 85 in here right now. There is very little in the stove at present and the stove top is 350. I will be adding wood soon but will wait for the animals. We have a sliding glass door right by the stove and a wood rack on the porch. Problem is there are 6 deer about 40 feet from the house. When they leave, I'll add some wood. Geeze. The animals rate quite highly here. ;)
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    Good on you for not spooking the deer. One of the (many) great things about Michigan is the awesome deer population, IMHO.
    Only seen a few deer in the area here over the last couple years, but I did have an unexpected lunch guest (young bull moose) looking in my front patio doors about a year ago My poor old golden was too sick to even notice, so the moose stuck around for a while. This is why we live where we live....
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    Sounds great on the moose. Not so great for the dog.
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    Yeah I miss him That's one of those memories that makes you feel happy and sad at the same time. No better friend than a good dog....
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    Dennis, are they planning on an insert any time in the future? I could sell my wife on something from Woodstock a lot easier than most other stoves.
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    Phrasing!

    How much do you think you could get for her? Would Woodstock take her in on one of their trade-in programs?
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    I'd say by the looks of the emblem on the side(which i hate) it has soapstone behind it.
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    Poor wording by me but as usual but I think a nice Woodstock soapstone insert would be a big hit.
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