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  1. Huntindog1 Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 6, 2011
    1,043 posts
    South Central Indiana
    I was getting ready to say the same thing but you said it just fine.

    We dont really need a stove thats like 1% better in efficiency. There are stoves in Europe that burn at higher efficiencies than US designed stoves. We need to get into the upper 80's low 90's efficiency , heck this is the year 2013. You ought to see what we do with diesel engines these days as I work in research and development for a diesel engine company. Alot of secret sauce in those diesel engines.
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  2. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,148 posts
    Michigan
    No plans in the works at this time as far as I know. I remember talking to Tom about this but unfortunately as I age, my memory banks sometimes stop working...
  3. Bub381 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 4, 2011
    839 posts
    Mid-coast Maine
    We're you paid to forget Dennis? j/k ;)
  4. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,148 posts
    Michigan
    ;lol Wouldn't it be nice to get paid?! Maybe we could go in together on a project Bub?
  5. rideau Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    1,346 posts
    southern ontario
    If you are still within your six months, call Woodstock and talk with them about the issues. Maybe you can work something out, exchanging the PH for the new stove when it comes out.
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  6. HollowHill Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 29, 2009
    621 posts
    Central NY
    I did that several times last year, Todd2. This year I got myself some looooonnnnng stove gloves. They work a treat. Get your wife some, lot cheaper than a new stove!
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  7. Bub381 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 4, 2011
    839 posts
    Mid-coast Maine
    Ya never know.;)
  8. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,699 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    Keep honey around for a burn, applied right away stops a blister and the burning,,,I healed a 3rd degree welding burn, slag got down in my boot along side my ankle,,, healed no problem,, yes there's a scar on that one:) Pure lavender oil works as well.. I use Young Living oils.
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  9. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,148 posts
    Michigan
    Or Vitamin E.
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  10. Todd 2 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Sep 17, 2012
    274 posts
    Dellroy, OH ( Atwood Lake )
    I bought a pair of the arm pit length kind (on her) and she is still pretty gun shy, I get the "I'd rather not mess with it"
    I think its it her excuse to keep me home more,lol
    All things considered I think the saying goes once bitten twice shy.
    she likes the heat but gives the stove the evil eye now - better it than me :)
  11. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,148 posts
    Michigan
    Todd, it just sounds like more TLC is needed there! ;)
  12. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    Did any of you notice THIS at the bottom of that?? It says they are ALSO working on something else very efficient.... !
    http://woodstocksoapstoneco.blogspot.com/2012/09/coming-soonmore-high-efficiency-stove.html

    The automatic A/F control sounds awesome. Maybe after perfected, they could come up with a retrofit for the PH's? That would be the bomb!

    Regarding the leg height, another reason for the high legs like on the PH in addtion to hearth clearances, could be a large ash pan like on the PH. I LOVE the big ash pan I have on the PH. I empty it about once a week, and it has yet to actually be full when I emptied it.


    Todd 2,
    I'm wondering what kind of fire you guys are reaching into? When I load my stove, there is ussually very little left in it to worry about getting burnt from. I guess you could hit the side of the door opening or something,..? But, your not reaching in and loading a raging fire, are you? I simply slide a few splits in after raking all the hot coals to the forward 1/2 of the stove. I slide a large split onto the grate in the back, and another in the front on the hot coals, then slide the rest of my load onto those. My hands is rarely more than 3 or 4 inches into the doorway.
  13. Todd 2 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Sep 17, 2012
    274 posts
    Dellroy, OH ( Atwood Lake )
    Machria,
    Normal reload when down to hot coals, we fill it when temps drop burning 24-7 so the door rim stays hot (thats what got her) Also my wood is cut 16-17" for the old stove so you half to reach in a little further to make sure you have it centered so the glass protector arms work with a full load.
    Should have thought to get the long gloves sooner, I think in do time she will be ok with it.

    Todd2
  14. Bub381 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 4, 2011
    839 posts
    Mid-coast Maine
    Ugly! Looks like 1 of those Home Depot cheapos.
  15. blades Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 23, 2008
    866 posts
    WI, Milw
    Beauty is in the wallet of the owner
  16. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    My wife is not fond of the look of soapstone stoves. The PH or Keystone is about as close as she would tolerate. The current design of the Union is too extreme for her tastes too. I hope they're not limiting their sales by the eccentric design.
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  17. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,699 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    I think Woodstock's new stove will sell very well... A lot of folks wanted to own one of their stoves but needed a front loader for their installation ... I think if they were that worried about sales they would have made the Progress Hybrid a front loader.. I think their service , warrantee and their very reasonable stove part prices, is what sells their stoves,, plus your dealing with the stove builder direct when ever you call... All things in favor of the new stove owner who just shelled out his hard earned money... Too me they seemed to be very comfortable with what ever they build... I'm sure they're not going to spend all this time and money to build a flop! I think they are going to surprise everyone one with a very nice stove with some unique features..
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  18. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    You put a big hunk of anything in the living room and it should look good. It's too big an item to hide for the 6-8 months it's doing nothing. The more eccentric the look the narrower the market.
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  19. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    I don't get it??? Whats wrong with clamps??? :)
  20. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,148 posts
    Michigan
    You are correct that at times this could have a narrowing of the market. However, I think when you see the finished product you very will will change your mind.
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  21. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    425 posts
    West central PA
    Do you have any spy photos you can share?
  22. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,148 posts
    Michigan
    Sorry, but no. Woodstock will show all of us when it is time.
  23. raybonz Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 5, 2008
    5,972 posts
    Carver, MA.
    LOL I really want to run with that one!!! ==c

    Ray
  24. Stax Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 22, 2010
    849 posts
    Southeastern PA
    Sorry, but that thing is just plain ugly.
  25. KaptJaq Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 31, 2011
    550 posts
    Long Island, NY
    I think the design of the outer shell is still in transition. There are a couple of versions around the web including:

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