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Sawset said:
www.eurekalert.org

COVID-19 vaccine candidate shows promise in first peer-reviewed research

A potential COVID-19 vaccine, delivered by microscopic needles, produces antibodies specific to the virus when tested in mice. This is the first peer-reviewed paper describing a COVID-19 vaccine candidate. The next step is a human clinical trial.
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My neighbor owns a company that provides equipment to a lot of pharmaceutical companies, and tells me that more than one of his customers have already started large-scale manufacture of vaccines for COVID-19, short-cutting the normally-serialized process of trials, then manufacture, then distribution. They are working under the assumption that either their vaccine will acquire eventual approval after testing, or that the fed will cover their investment if trials fail. I don't think he knows which vaccines are being manufactured by these customers of his, or at least he didn't mention it to me, but the point was that they are doing what can be done to shorten the time to manufacture and distribute the product, post-trial.
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Medic21 said:
Just as the families of 600,000 that die from cancer could probably care less about a few dying from a virus that never impacted them.

it all perspective. The perspective now is we destroy our economy to save a few thousand people that are well within their right to stay quarantined if they choose to. If you don’t feel safe then stay away from the public. It’s a really simple concept. If you feel at risk and they open the country and you go out because your a dumbass that has to have someone to tell you to wipe... that’s on you
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Do you know if that number includes cancer patients that are 70+? I imagine most folks who die of old age actually die from some kind of cancer.
 
Medic21 said:
Just as the families of 600,000 that die from cancer could probably care less about a few dying from a virus that never impacted them.

it all perspective. The perspective now is we destroy our economy to save a few thousand people that are well within their right to stay quarantined if they choose to. If you don’t feel safe then stay away from the public. It’s a really simple concept. If you feel at risk and they open the country and you go out because your a dumbass that has to have someone to tell you to wipe... that’s on you
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A few thousand what exactly do you consider a few? Is that under your strategy of ignoring the problem. Or is it with the strategy of the majority of the world's scientific community?
 
bholler said:
A few thousand what exactly do you consider a few? Is that under your strategy of ignoring the problem. Or is it with the strategy of the majority of the world's scientific community?
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I never said ignore. I’ve repeatedly stated that those that are high risk stay quarantined. I even said if you feel you need to you can. That’s better than the government taking away rights
 
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The kid does pharmaceutical research. The other day she told me that the SARS research is being dusted off and built on. The research had been shelved when money could not be made off of it, and more profitable research was possible. Now it will be a building block for the corona virus research which could be highly valuable.
 
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The last three episodes of the Itchy Boots channel on YouTube have been interesting. I think someone on this forum originally turned me onto her, and she’s been on lockdown in Peru, trying to return to the Netherlands. In any case, her embassy (Netherlands) is able to arrange a special flight to repatriate all of the Hollanders trapped in Peru, and as she travels across Peru to try to reach this flight you get to see how seriously another country is treating this pandemic. During just two or three days, their situation escalates from voluntary isolation to curfews, to prohibited travel between towns, to even prohibiting travel with another person despite having special permitting from the government.

The travel restrictions are demonstrated most in episodes 73-74, I’ll link below. But the story starts back in episode 69, and is a very interesting watch, if you have the time.

 
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As for mortality rates, they have now stalled long enough on ramping up testing that the peak death rates can pass unattributed to the virus, and politicians can't be held to account for the actual death toll that will result from their not taking the threat seriously, back when it could have made a bigger difference.
 
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Ashful said:
Are you going to go as far as moderating someone for responding to one of your own blatantly-political posts?
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Comment removed. You are right, please accept my apology. Have friends in PR that lost several family members. Their deaths were never officially accounted for. Still sucks.
 
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This is some info from our county website, the map isn't updated yet.
As of 4/7/2020, there are 70 Confirmed Cases
There are 8 Hospitalizations and 17 have been
released from Mandatory Isolation and are doing
well.
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begreen said:
Comment removed. You are right, please accept my apology. Have friends in PR that lost several family members. Their deaths were never officially accounted for. Still sucks.
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Heh... it’s all good. I think you know me well enough now to realize I was having fun with you, and not actually offended.
 
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thewoodlands said:
This is some info from our county website, the map isn't updated yet.
As of 4/7/2020, there are 70 Confirmed Cases
There are 8 Hospitalizations and 17 have been
released from Mandatory Isolation and are doing
well.
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Consider yourself lucky. Multiply those numbers by 60x, and you have my corner of the state, today. Governor has now laid off thousands of very local state employees, as a result of this, which isn’t going to bode well for our local economic recovery.
 
Ashful said:
Consider yourself lucky. Multiply those numbers by 60x, and you have my corner of the state, today. Governor has now laid off thousands of very local state employees, as a result of this, which isn’t going to bode well for our local economic recovery.
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Local economies may not recover in my lifetime right now. Everyday we have a small business closed permanently. In the end big business will be bailed out and local businesses will sink.
 
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Ashful said:
Consider yourself lucky. Multiply those numbers by 60x, and you have my corner of the state, today. Governor has now laid off thousands of very local state employees, as a result of this, which isn’t going to bode well for our local economic recovery.
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Most of our town workers have been off for going on three weeks and I'm seeing some state workers that are off here. The majority of our businesses have been close by state law for three weeks too so our local government budgets are shot. Those same businesses will be closed until the end of the month, some will open back up and others won't.


I'm sure all the states will need money from the Washington.
 
Medic21 said:
Local economies may not recover in my lifetime right now. Everyday we have a small business closed permanently. In the end big business will be bailed out and local businesses will sink.
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There are many different sources of funds available and programs to help small businesses.
 
thewoodlands said:
Most of our town workers have been off for going on three weeks and I'm seeing some state workers that are off here. The majority of our businesses have been close by state law for three weeks too so our local government budgets are shot. Those same businesses will be closed until the end of the month, some will open back up and others won't.


I'm sure all the states will need money from the Washington.
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Ideally, the state would be able to furlough these workers, so they could keep their rank, their pensions, and benefits. Tightening your belt for a a few weeks or months is one thing, but permanently losing a job that may have been your life’s work is another. I’m disappointed that the state doesn’t see the benefit in retaining these employees for the rebound, as if they don’t expect to need them again in a few weeks or months, or maybe I’m reading too much into it.
 
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Ideally, the state would be able to furlough these workers, so they could keep their rank, their pensions, and benefits. Tightening your belt for a a few weeks or months is one thing, but permanently losing a job that may have been your life’s work is another. I’m disappointed that the state doesn’t see the benefit in retaining these employees for the rebound, as if they don’t expect to need them again in a few weeks or months, or maybe I’m reading too much into it.
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I say this with good intentions, hopefully you're reading too much into it.

Stay Safe
 
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An alternative POV in the method of treatment from the front line. Interesting. He is focusing on the methodology of the respirator use rather than rote pressure. It is interesting to note that in Europe, where they have changed the way they are using the ventilator they are not losing patients.
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Possible Developments in the Treatment of Acute COVID-19

This appears potentially quite important. Since it has to do with technical clinical details and treatment protocols I'll try to be both as precise and general as possible. Yesterday I noticed this…
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Ashful said:
Heh... it’s all good. I think you know me well enough now to realize I was having fun with you, and not actually offended.
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The comment caused a report, some did not see it in jest.
 
bholler said:
There are many different sources of funds available and programs to help small businesses.
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Right now the system is overloaded. Many small businesses are trying to log on and crashing the system. It's pretty dysfunctional at a time when the owners are faced with a make or break decision going forward. They don't have the luxury of waiting weeks for this to get sorted out.
 
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