I am having a True North N10 installed as we speak.. I have some questions

[WAstate]

I found this interesting, if a bit "dry" (pardon the pun :D). The conclusion to this is basically pyrophoric carbon is a myth. BUT what I read in the conclusion of the paper is that the wood breaks down, so that does cause air to be able to more easily infiltrate it, thus causing accidental fires. So, the experiment is saying it doesn't self heat because of pyrophoric carbon, but it does because of the break down of materials. At least that is how I interpret it anyway... http://iafss.org/publications/fss/6/301/view

 

[brenndatomu]

Get the cheap IR gun. You will enjoy learning the spots to keep a eye on. I have one from Flea Bay I spent roughly $12 including shipping several years ago

I have one that I found at Menards for $5 I think it was after sale and rebate...works just fine

 

[WAstate]

I have one that I found at Menards for $5 I think it was after sale and rebate...works just fine

Nice! I will check out whether or not they ship

 

[WAstate]

I had no idea about the start up costs on having a stove put in and all the stuff you need for it. I thought it would be around $2500.... eesh.

 

[SpaceBus]

I had no idea about the start up costs on having a stove put in and all the stuff you need for it. I thought it would be around $2500.... eesh.

Indeed.

 

[WAstate]

Well, I just spent $150 on gloves, tools, fire extinguishers, IR sensor, etc. I think I am ready! First fire was last night

 

[SpaceBus]

Well, I just spent $150 on gloves, tools, fire extinguishers, IR sensor, etc. I think I am ready! First fire was last night

Gloves are definitely a must have tool, especially for the first season. Sometimes I don't feel like getting them and I always singe some arm hairs when I don't.

 

[begreen]

Well, I just spent $150 on gloves, tools, fire extinguishers, IR sensor, etc. I think I am ready! First fire was last night

Looks like it's burning well in spite of warm temps outside. One important thing. Does the house have a smoke detector in good working order (and a fresh battery)?

 

[WAstate]

Looks like it's burning well in spite of warm temps outside. One important thing. Does the house have a smoke detector in good working order (and a fresh battery)?

Yes, and a CO2 detector that is combined and plugged in. I also have a smoke detector on my ceiling but I haven't checked the batteries in a couple of years. I might do that this weekend, thanks for the reminder

 

[WAstate]

I have another question (probably one of many) should I start another thread for them or just keep going? I lit my 3rd fire yesterday afternoon but then for other reasons needed to put it out. I tried shutting off the air supply but it just got smoky. The temp went down in the box to about 200 but smoke kept rolling around in the box and out the flue for an hour or so. I finally just threw in some quick burn material to get it going again to burn it up. How can I make a fire go out once I start it, if I need to?

 

[SpaceBus]

You don't, because it will end up a smoky mess as you found. Smoky smoldering fires will cause large quantities of creosote to accumulate in your chimney, which is bad. Better to burn small hot fires if you don't want a long burn or a lot of heat.

 

[WAstate]

You don't, because it will end up a smoky mess as you found. Smoky smoldering fires will cause large quantities of creosote to accumulate in your chimney, which is bad. Better to burn small hot fires if you don't want a long burn or a lot of heat.

I am learning My job requires me to leave sometimes fairly quickly. I guess I will have to wait until I know I am in for the night!

 

[SpaceBus]

I am learning My job requires me to leave sometimes fairly quickly. I guess I will have to wait until I know I am in for the night!

I'm sure it doesn't say this is ok in the manual, but we burn at night and when we are away. This is not to say you could/should do the same, but you will get used to the stove in time.

 

[brenndatomu]

I think more members here burn overnight and while at work than not...one more reason it's important to make sure the install is done properly... peace of mind

 

[WAstate]

Got my Infrared gun today. Did a fire, at the hottest temp on the wall it was 151. Is that okay?

 

[brenndatomu]

Got my Infrared gun today. Did a fire, at the hottest temp on the wall it was 151. Is that okay?

Does it feel that hot?
The problem is that the IR guns are only totally accurate on smooth flat black surfaces...not sure how that light colored semi gloss(?) wall is going to read?
If it really is that hot, its probably still ok, but for myself I would probably put up an additional wall shield, just for my own peace of mind...

 

[WAstate]

Does it feel that hot?
The problem is that the IR guns are only totally accurate on smooth flat black surfaces...not sure how that light colored semi gloss(?) wall is going to read?
If it really is that hot, its probably still ok, but for myself I would probably put up an additional wall shield, just for my own peace of mind...

I would have to move my stove out then, as there is only a 3 inch clearance. Does tin foil work?

 

[DuaeGuttae]

Got my Infrared gun today. Did a fire, at the hottest temp on the wall it was 151. Is that okay?

Good for you for being safety-minded. The color, as brenndatomu mentioned, is likely throwing off the reading. Can you hold your hand against the wall?

Don't leave this there, but do you have a piece of black construction paper that you could temporarily tape in the spot of concern, leave it for ten minutes, test the temperature, and then remove it?

I've read in other threads on here that 90 degrees above the ambient temperature is okay, but I'm no expert. In fact, I'm rather cautious, and I think 150 degrees would make me nervous if that's an accurate reading. @begreen, do you have some sage advice here?

Edited to add: The other day I think that my youngest adjusted the emissivity on our infrared thermometer. I asked my husband to measure the temperature of something, and the result seemed off. When I questioned whether it could be right, he checked the palm of his hand and got 160 degrees. I adjusted the emissivity back to a more standard setting and immediately got more credible readings.

Infrared thermometers are great tools but don't panic over your first reading until you do more investigating.

 

[brenndatomu]

Does tin foil work?

Weeellll, kinda, sorta, not really...it would probably help, but I don't know how you would mount it...it needs to have at least a 1" air gap behind it. Would be pretty easy to make a free standing sheet metal shield to go in behind there though...

 

[WAstate]

I don't know who deals with sheet metal. Should I look for a welder?

 

[WAstate]

Good for you for being safety-minded. The color, as brenndatomu mentioned, is likely throwing off the reading. Can you hold your hand against the wall?

Don't leave this there, but do you have a piece of black construction paper that you could temporarily tape in the spot of concern, leave it for ten minutes, test the temperature, and then remove it?

I've read in other threads on here that 90 degrees above the ambient temperature is okay, but I'm no expert. In fact, I'm rather cautious, and I think 150 degrees would make me nervous if that's an accurate reading. @begreen, do you have some sage advice here?

Edited to add: The other day I think that my youngest adjusted the emissivity on our infrared thermometer. I asked my husband to measure the temperature of something, and the result seemed off. When I questioned whether it could be right, he checked the palm of his hand and got 160 degrees. I adjusted the emissivity back to a more standard setting and immediately got more credible readings.

Infrared thermometers are great tools but don't panic over your first reading until you do more investigating.

I can touch the wall and it seems warm but I can leave my hand there. I learned from a neighbor though that the former owner had a free standing wood stove in the same place and used it daily for years. It is my first day with an IR sensor. Maybe it was wrong? I don't have any gloss to my paint, it is a mat finish.

 

[brenndatomu]

Should I look for a welder?

Nah...maybe a sheet metal shop at the most, or maybe a stove shop...you could literally stand a couple pieces of this behind the stove yourself...the possibilities are endless on the metal type and look with this.

Amerimax Home Products 3 ft. Galvanized Steel Corrugated Project Panel (3-Pack) 4736011001 - The Home Depot

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[brenndatomu]

I can touch the wall and it seems warm but I can leave my hand there.

Its probably not 150* then...most people cant handle much more than 140*, and even that for only a few seconds...so this discussion may be all for nothing...

 

[WAstate]

Nah...maybe a sheet metal shop at the most, or maybe a stove shop...you could literally stand a couple pieces of this behind the stove yourself...the possibilities are endless on the metal type and look with this.

Amerimax Home Products 3 ft. Galvanized Steel Corrugated Project Panel (3-Pack) 4736011001 - The Home Depot

Bring the unique and custom look of metal panels into your projects with the 3 ft. corrugated project panel from Amerimax. These project panels are pre-cut in easy to handle 3 ft. length and come 3 per

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Okay, I guess I could get martha stewart on this!

 

[begreen]

I can touch the wall and it seems warm but I can leave my hand there. I learned from a neighbor though that the former owner had a free standing wood stove in the same place and used it daily for years. It is my first day with an IR sensor. Maybe it was wrong? I don't have any gloss to my paint, it is a mat finish.

That is likely under 130º where your hand is placed.