10-cpm E 3 codes

[sculptor]

three times I got an E 3 code. what to do?

 

[CladMaster]

Blower failure (E-3)

1. Check for flue blockage (nests, rodents, excess soot, etc.)
2. Check combustion blower wires, then call Technical Support.
3. Check for loose flue/pipe connections. Also be sure to have
proper Outside Air hook-up.

In other words, tear down completely and clean and inspect the stove, the flue, the intake (air and fuel), wires and so on.

Once you have done this, put the stove into diagnostics mode and test each part of the stove via the control board (details of how to do this can be found on England's website).

 

[sculptor]

Anybody have any real world advice? It's 6:51 AM I doubt I'd reach anyone at englander. sigh



cleaned it. It will run for about 30 min and then shuts down. I feel blowers/ hear blowers

 

[CladMaster]

cleaned it. It will run for about 30 min and then shuts down. I feel blowers/ hear blowers

Clean out everything, the hopper, the flue (exhaust pipe), exhaust blower (yes, it means that you got to pull the blower off from the stove and clean it and the pipe in that area), then put it all back together and test / run again.

 

[sculptor]

like more than 3 times

 

[CladMaster]

OK, put the stove into diagnostics mode and just run the exhaust blower for 10 - 30 minutes and see what happens, it might be that the motor for the exhaust is starting to fail. Might want to oil the motors bearings (use 3 in one oil), there are two small holes at either end of the motor (you will find diagrams / pictures here on this site which shows the oil holes, you just need to search for them).

 

[CladMaster]

Anybody have any real world advice? It's 6:51 AM I doubt I'd reach anyone at englander. sigh

Really ! ....... sigh.

I'm sure you will get the same responce from others here, so take it or leave it, your choice.

 

[sculptor]

Really ! ....... sigh.

I'm sure you will get the same responce from others here, so take it or leave it, your choice.

Well you've increased your post count...now move on!

 

[CladMaster]

I'll get the popcorn and sit back and watch this thread, this should be fun.

 

[smwilliamson]

Did the while thermocouple wires come unplugged from the board?

 

[sculptor]

Did the while thermocouple wires come unplugged from the board?

thanks. I'll check

Ugh. I think it's my conv blower.

On SU there is a lack of blower noise, and the flame is not very active at SU. Once out of SU I can hear the comb blower and feel the conv blower....it will run for about 20 minutes and than E3

 

[sculptor]

E-3 = Unit Overfired
If you see the E-3 code displayed on your control board, you have overfired your unit.
You must let the unit cool and clean the Firebox and Burnpot. Be sure to clean the
orifices (holes in the Burnpot). You should not burn your unit on High (Heat Range 9)
continuously when burning corn. After a couple of hours of burning corn on high, turn
the Heat Range to 7 and the Blower Speed to 9. Run

Not a lot on this in the manual.

 

[smwilliamson]

not enough air circulating = overheat

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Usually an overheat/overfire/overlimit is caused by a failing/dirty/improperly maintained convection blower.

 

[sculptor]

Usually an overheat/overfire/overlimit is caused by a failing/dirty/improperly maintained convection blower.

OK. This is the longest the stove has been running since last night. It's running with both comb/conv blowers going. At 2:30 I did the leaf blower (I"m sure my neighbors are happy about that). I did complete clean also. This is right around the ton mark that the combustion blower was replaced. I have never replaced/ or even removed the convection blower. It's been running on 3 4 for about 30 minutes. I've bumped it up to 9 9.

my apologies to cladmaster. It's been a long night...

 

[sculptor]

After I posted. I see the fire going out and an E3. I been running this stove for 4 years never had and error code and have gotten 5 since last night.

Thanks SmokeyTheBear. I'm leaning toward the convection blower. There seems to be a lack of forced air at SU but the convection blower does come on after SU. It seems a little weak but then again it's 28 degrees outside and this is my only heat. Well, I'll bundle up this weekend an hope to get a hold of someone at ES on Monday.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Is your convection blower oil able?

If it is it needs to be regularly oiled.

If this hasn't been done you are going to have to oil it, work the oil in, and add a bit more oil until the blower turns freely. It is also possible that it is beyond recovery.

Is there crud on the squirrel cage?

It only takes a little to reduce the convection air flow through the stove which over time will result in the stove going out and displaying an E3

 

[sculptor]

Is your convection blower oil able?

If it is it needs to be regularly oiled.

If this hasn't been done you are going to have to oil it, work the oil in, and add a bit more oil until the blower turns freely. It is also possible that it is beyond recovery.

Is there crud on the squirrel cage?

It only takes a little to reduce the convection air flow through the stove which over time will result in the stove going out and displaying an E3

do you see any damage if I keep letting it run until is shuts down?

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Well I'm not one to force high limit conditions without actually trying out a fix.

If it is the convection blower eventually it will no longer even attempt to start up and your shut down will happen earlier on the time line.

I'd lower the settings to 6,8 and see how long it lasts at least it will run longer.

 

[sculptor]

Well I'm not one to force high limit conditions without actually trying out a fix.

Good point. I would like to try a fix. Doing that would shut my heat down, and it's the only one I've got. Since my option is to shut it down, disconnect venting and oak. I'm not even sure I can oil this thing... I was just hoping to get it to limp along...

 

[mithesaint]

To oil the convection blower, remove it from the stove, and flip it over. There are two oil ports on the bottom of the motor. Might want to get started fixing this. Continued overheating...somethings gonna give. Not good for your combustion blower to get over heated again and again. You'll have to replace that next.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Well I clean my convection blower and oil it without removing it from the stove.

It may be possible to get those oil ports so they can be oiled without having to tear apart the stove.

So let's see it has been how many years since you oiled that oil every 6 months blower? Sturdy little beast ain't it?

 

[sculptor]

I pulled the conv blower. The squirrel cage was dirty but not completely blocked. I snapped a photo of the blower because I don't NOT see anywhere to oil this thing? The battery on the camera is charging and I'll post a pic of the blower.

 

[CladMaster]

I pulled the conv blower. The squirrel cage was dirty but not completely blocked. I snapped a photo of the blower because I don't NOT see anywhere to oil this thing? The battery on the camera is charging and I'll post a pic of the blower.

Look for holes like in the pictures below.

 

[imacman]

Was there any pet hair, dust etc on the intake screen? That, plus a lack of oil on the bearings may be to blame. If oiling the bearings & cleaning don't do it, blower may be on the way out. As mentioned above, make sure the temp. sensor is plugged into the board firmly and the probe end is tight on the exhaust plenum.