Are these good secondaries?

[Itslay90]

I just want to know. I attached a video. The flue was 450, and the stove top was 652.6

 

[EbS-P]

Looks like nice hot fire to me. What happens if you turn it down from there? Do you see more fire at the top and less at the bottom?

 

[Ctwoodtick]

Looks like a healthy fire to me. Could probably have the air control a little more closed down to see if the secondaries sustain themselves with a little less air.

 

[Itslay90]

Looks like nice hot fire to me. What happens if you turn it down from there? Do you see more fire at the top and less at the bottom?

I’m going to have to try it again, at that point I just left it like that.

 

[EbS-P]

I’m going to have to try it again, at that point I just left it like that.

Remind me what stove you have.

 

[blades]

super good secondaries would be dancing around at the top of the burn chamber or jets of flame from 2nd burn tubes due to off gassing of the wood. depending on where your air control is set you may not have flames directly off of the wood

 

[Itslay90]

Remind me what stove you have.

Pacific energy Summit LE

 

[barnaclebob]

That doesn't look like much secondary combustion to me but that might just be because the smoke is being mostly burnt by primary combustion. I can see some on the top left and the left side in general is closer to full secondary combustion where the flame is detached from the logs.

The fire looks hot enough for them in the video so it might not have been turned down enough or for long enough. With good secondary combustion it looks almost like you are porting natural gas into the top of the stove.

 

[30WCF]

You may also need to hold the camera a little closer to the ground so we are kind of looking up into the stove for a better view of the burn tubes.
I’m sure we could see them in that video if they were rolling, but I didn’t see much to say that the secondary burn was rolling.

 

[begreen]

Is 450º surface temp the reading on single-wall stove pipe or probe thermometer in double-wall stove pipe?

 

[bigealta]

Something more like this where the flames are coming out of the small holes in the secondary tubes, while there may be only some small flames reaching up from the splits below. For the absolute best there would be almost no flames by the splits and all the fire is coming out of the secondaries.

 

[Itslay90]

Is 450º surface temp the reading on single-wall stove pipe or probe thermometer in double-wall stove pipe?

Single wall

Something more like this where the flames are coming out of the small holes in the secondary tubes, while there may be only some small flames reaching up from the splits below. For the absolute best there would be almost no flames by the splits and all the fire is coming out of the secondaries.

nice, I’ll try to get it right now I just started a fire

 

[begreen]

Single wall

nice, I’ll try to get it right now I just started a fire

That is too high. It's about 900º internally. It should be reading more like 300º on single wall. Review past threads on this.

 

[Itslay90]

That is too high. It's about 900º internally. Review past threads on this.

I’ll trying to get it lower give me a few minutes

 

[30WCF]

Are you reading surface temp with a magnetic thermometer or an IR? If it’s a probe , then it’s internal, and that temp means something different than a STT thermometer stuck to a stove pipe.
Can you post a pic of the thermometer if it’s not IR?

 

[begreen]

Are you reading surface temp with a magnetic thermometer or an IR? If it’s a probe , then it’s internal, and that temp means something different than a STT thermometer stuck to a stove pipe.
Can you post a pic of the thermometer if it’s not IR?

surface temp on single wall with an IR gun.

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Post in thread 'I have a Pacific energy summit le'

Dec 16, 2022

Do you have a pipe thermometer?

I’m using a infrared gun to check the flue temperature

• Itslay90

 

[Itslay90]

Are you reading surface temp with a magnetic thermometer or an IR? If it’s a probe , then it’s internal, and that temp means something different than a STT thermometer stuck to a stove pipe.
Can you post a pic of the thermometer if it’s not IR?

Ir gun

 

[bigealta]

it can take some practice to get the draft right. If u go to far to fast you can stall the flames, then u basically have to open up the draft and start over. At least that's how it works with my f400 and it's set up.

 

[EbS-P]

Just confirming if/when you removed the baffle and swept you stuffed a rag in center secondary air tube (the one with the gasket).

 

[begreen]

Has a key damper been added to the stove pipe for better control of the draft?

 

[Itslay90]

Has a key damper been added to the stove pipe for better control of the draft?

Yes I been added one

 

[Itslay90]

Here’s an update video, it been like this for 3 hours already !!

 

[30WCF]

That’s rolling.

 

[Itslay90]

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That’s rolling.

Thank you

 

[Woody Stover]

Here’s an update video, it been like this for 3 hours already !!

How far is the air control open in that burn?
Good secondaries, but as others said, you want smaller flames coming off the wood. That's why your flue temps are high; You're sending a lot of heat up the chimney with those big flames off the wood.
If your air is closed and it's still burning that hot, try cutting the air more aggressively at the start to control the burn more. If you get too much wood burning at the beginning, it's really hard to slow it down.
Or if you need to cut the draft lower for a slower burn, put in a second flue damper. I have two flue dampers stacked, on both or my SILs' stoves. One stove is a PE T5, and that thing drafts like crazy on just 16' of chimney. The second flue damper made a noticeable difference.